EV owners of today and tomorrow

[Grumpycat]

Nice try.
You can’t take an overall statistic you scalped off the net and infer it to a specific circumstance of being parked in a garage…where it could “burn the house down”.

Ice vehicles very rarely self combust, sitting parked in a garage.

Battery vehicles on the other hand, are connected to high amperage power, being charged in the garage, which raises the odds of starting a house fire considerably.

Fantasy.

The EV isn’t even on the biggest circuit in the house. But it is new and scary!

Clearly you have forgotten how combustible gasoline is? Why diesel is the military battlefield fuel?

Again, where are the facts of EVs burning homes? Statistics. Not the, “I’m a genius I thought about it, no real experience but I thought about it and am a genius so I know!”

Just over 10 years ago Tesla made a software change to the Model S charging which upset a few users. It monitored the quality of the connection and greatly lowered the charging current fearing a bad connection.

Where are these house fires?

Tesla is vindicated over fire after salvaged car buyer reveals video showing how fire originated

Tesla has been vindicated after a Model Y was wrongly blamed for a fire that happened earlier this year in...

electrek.co

https://insideevs.com/news/550960/tesla-modely-charging-fire-pennsylvania/

“This particular fire is currently under investigation and no cause has been officially announced. Back in 2019, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said no to a petition asking for an in-depth, formal investigation of the Tesla battery management software, in order to find a link between recently updated software and the battery fire issue.”
“However, the NHTSA said no, partly because most complaints about this came from outside the United States - the fires seemed much more common in China than in the US and they seemed to be most common among vehicles that were frequently fast charged and then quickly discharged, although no actual link was ever established.”

So, the NHTSA doesn’t see any elevated risk?

 

[Grumpycat]

5 cents doesn’t sound right for the cost of electricity. Are you taking your total electric bill and dividing it by your total kwh?
That gives you your actual cost per kWh.
My guess is you’re only stating the off peak energy price, which is misleading.

In NH I’m paying just over 24 cents a KWh. The energy portion is about 50% of that.

Off-peak pricing is fair game if there is a connection fee not a delivery fee. Would be the incremental cost of consuming 1 more kWh.

I pay $14.23/month “availability charge” no matter how much I use or don’t. Then 0.102330/kWh for the first 1400 kWh.

 

[wawajake]

Fantasy.

The EV isn’t even on the biggest circuit in the house. But it is new and scary!

Clearly you have forgotten how combustible gasoline is? Why diesel is the military battlefield fuel?

Again, where are the facts of EVs burning homes? Statistics. Not the, “I’m a genius I thought about it, no real experience but I thought about it and am a genius so I know!”

Just over 10 years ago Tesla made a software change to the Model S charging which upset a few users. It monitored the quality of the connection and greatly lowered the charging current fearing a bad connection.

Where are these house fires?

Tesla is vindicated over fire after salvaged car buyer reveals video showing how fire originated

Tesla has been vindicated after a Model Y was wrongly blamed for a fire that happened earlier this year in...

electrek.co

https://insideevs.com/news/550960/tesla-modely-charging-fire-pennsylvania/

“This particular fire is currently under investigation and no cause has been officially announced. Back in 2019, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said no to a petition asking for an in-depth, formal investigation of the Tesla battery management software, in order to find a link between recently updated software and the battery fire issue.”
“However, the NHTSA said no, partly because most complaints about this came from outside the United States - the fires seemed much more common in China than in the US and they seemed to be most common among vehicles that were frequently fast charged and then quickly discharged, although no actual link was ever established.”

So, the NHTSA doesn’t see any elevated risk?

Elevated risk is already being noted by various buildings not allowing indoor parking of EVs.......but I suspect the more elevated risk will occur as EVs forced onto lower class people that in effort to be frugal will wire their living quarters themselves and those DIY situation and extensions will not be as safe as the early EV adopters that can afford doing it right. ( Not made to be long duration high amperage etc.) Now of course the EV industry will be able to wash their hands of it, by noting those house fires were wiring not cars fault ...... but all the rest of us home insurance customers will help pay the increased payouts insurance companies handle. Just like we help pay for the EV industry to increase their market share. C'est la vie ..

 

[Grumpycat]

Elevated risk is already being noted by various buildings not allowing indoor parking of EVs....

Please cite the evidence of risk, not the fear of risk.

Do you realize how risky it is to balance and walk on just two legs? Yet we do it anyway and rarely fall.

 

[Hay Dude]

I'm in that boat where I don't really trust the auto high beams on my wife's car.

I've found them to be quirky

I sure don't trust automatic windshield wipers. Would the camera turn them on because you just drove through a bunch of bugs and then smear them all over the windshield???

I'll turn them on when I need them, and adjust the intermittent level for my needs.

The level of technology that's been added into my wife's 2023 SanteFe, is unreal.

Some of it I like. Some of it, I find to be annoying, some I find to be distracting.

I'm dodging pot holes or tractor trailer tires out on the highway and the car tells me I need to take a coffee break

I do NOT like the auto turn-down side mirrors in my Ram and shut them off. My wife did same in our X-5. It turns them down so you are looking at the rear wheels.

 

[wawajake]

Please cite the evidence of risk, not the fear of risk.

Do you realize how risky it is to balance and walk on just two legs? Yet we do it anyway and rarely fall.

The industry and Governments need to be proactive to reduce these statistics from happening, because the trends are already being exposed in various countries. But like any technology, early adopters and corporations tend to gloss over the troublesome areas as long as the victims aren't them.

 

[Dftodd]

I do NOT like the auto turn-down side mirrors in my Ram and shut them off. My wife did same in our X-5. It turns them down so you are looking at the rear wheels.

I would have shut that off as well. Thankfully my wife's car doesn't have that.

We shut off lane assist. It want to fight you if your easing over to dodge a pot hole or give someone some room on the side of the road.

It has alarms on it that we can't shut off. If you creep less then a car lengh behind someone turning off the road, it will sound the alarm.

Same if you kick the blinker on and someone is in your blind spot. I was waiting for that vehicle to pass so I could change lanes

Also sound an alarm if it detects a vehicle or pedestrian moving behind you. This is really annoying if your backing out of a parking spot towards a road. I had it detect cars moving in the street between vehicles yesterday at chili's.

The auto braking will get you too

 

[Grumpycat]

I do NOT like the auto turn-down side mirrors in my Ram and shut them off. My wife did same in our X-5. It turns them down so you are looking at the rear wheels.

Adjust when they are down to where you want, will return to that position next time in reverse. Then back up to previous position in Drive.

 

[Grumpycat]

The industry and Governments need to be proactive to reduce these statistics from happening, because the trends are already being exposed in various countries. But like any technology, early adopters and corporations tend to gloss over the troublesome areas as long as the victims aren't them.

Show us these trends you claim exist.
Show us insurance claims.
Fire departments investigate every fire. Where is the data you claim?

 

[WinterDeere]

I do NOT like the auto turn-down side mirrors in my Ram and shut them off. My wife did same in our X-5. It turns them down so you are looking at the rear wheels.

I like the concept, but hate the implementation, as most angle down about twice as far as would be useful. I really wish more cars allowed you to select how far they angled down.