Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand

   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #81  
That's why I asked, kinda seems like BS.

As much as you may distrust "the media", someone out there should have the same story, with names to quote. In writing, preferably, not in video form. The more sources that you can cross-reference, the notion of reliability goes up.

If a story is only on video, you can pretty much ignore it. If it's only "reported" on one sketchy website, ignore it. If it's only on one "side"'s websites, it's very likely that side's propaganda.

These aren't hard & fast rules; after all, a story has to break somewhere. But after a couple hours it should be practically everywhere if there's even an ounce of truth to it.
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand
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If a story is only on video, you can pretty much ignore it. If it's only "reported" on one sketchy website, ignore it. If it's only on one "side"'s websites, it's very likely that side's propaganda.
When a video title says "5 minutes ago ! Breaking news!" Its a bulls hit video with no substance, just a clickbait title.

Mostly those videos are a week old before they float up in the algorithm so its suggested on the Youtube homepage, so many fools have clicked it before me for the algorhytm to even pick it up.

I always click "do not suggest this channel"
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #84  
There's a reason I don't watch any You Tube. Okay, several.
Yeah, I don't use it much either...maybe watch a few music videos or as a last resort a how-to video but that's it. I avoid the so-called influencers like the plague. Not sure what a youtube channel is.

As far as the rumor mentioned upthread, in the unlikely event it's true I would never buy another Mopar vehicle again, and I've been a Mopar guy since the 70s (despite my 3 current vehicles all being GM).
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #85  
Yeah, I don't use it much either...maybe watch a few music videos or as a last resort a how-to video but that's it. I avoid the so-called influencers like the plague. Not sure what a youtube channel is.

As far as the rumor mentioned upthread, in the unlikely event it's true I would never buy another Mopar vehicle again, and I've been a Mopar guy since the 70s (despite my 3 current vehicles all being GM).
Oh I would, if they revamp things some. You don't have to go electric, to bring the Tesla model to ICE vehicles. First thing they need to do is break the union, and just start firing everyone, then slowly bring back ex union folks who want to work.
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #86  
Oh I would, if they revamp things some. You don't have to go electric, to bring the Tesla model to ICE vehicles. First thing they need to do is break the union, and just start firing everyone, then slowly bring back ex union folks who want to work.
A lot of hate for Unions here, while I'll certainly agree that they have gotten too greedy and strong at times they have lost the massive clout that they used to have. At one time they were all that saved the American worker from becoming serfs to the rich.
I hear a lot of muttering about this last strike from the dock workers but if some uneducated knowledge lacking kid can make $20 an hour in fast food while being a lousy employee skilled workers should be making much more.
Then if you look at the companies that they were trying to negotiate with, a bunch of foreign owned extremely highly profitable mega corporations that have no concern for America or it's people.
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #87  
Yeah, I don't use it much either...maybe watch a few music videos or as a last resort a how-to video but that's it. I avoid the so-called influencers like the plague.
I did find out about The Motor Oil Geek somehow, and have watched a few of his videos.

There's more great information about oil and vehicle fluids than I can comprehend If anything, there's too much data about what makes (some) oils tick. No pun intended.
 
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A lot of hate for Unions here, while I'll certainly agree that they have gotten too greedy and strong at times they have lost the massive clout that they used to have. At one time they were all that saved the American worker from becoming serfs to the rich.

The UAW is what brought IH down... in 1950 they negotiated that workers automatically get any position they apply for if they were the most senior applicant, meaning that in 30 years time their leadership had rendered ineffective, seriously harming IH's profitability versus competitors. When renegotiating the deal in 1979, they went on strike for almost 6 months, right before the economic crisis struck.


This was another reason for Tenneco/Case to shut down the Rock Island, Illinois plant, fire everyone under IH UAW contract and begin to ship the production line of the 88 series to the Case plant in Racine, Wisconsin to build the Magnum.

I cannot find any reports of strikes at the German IHC Neuss works

 
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   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #89  
A lot of hate for Unions here, while I'll certainly agree that they have gotten too greedy and strong at times they have lost the massive clout that they used to have. At one time they were all that saved the American worker from becoming serfs to the rich.
I hear a lot of muttering about this last strike from the dock workers but if some uneducated knowledge lacking kid can make $20 an hour in fast food while being a lousy employee skilled workers should be making much more.
Then if you look at the companies that they were trying to negotiate with, a bunch of foreign owned extremely highly profitable mega corporations that have no concern for America or it's people.
Hate may be a strong word, but strong distant, yes, but that's not even the point. If we are talking about saving a failing operation; the union does not add any value to the company, and does have a lot of added expense. I dont really think any manufacturers can be competitive while dealing with organized labor, enviro regs, stiff competition, high taxes, and reduced demand. Breaking the Union would be a step in the right direction, but I don't think that will be enough to do it. It would probably be a combo of some labor, some gov bail out, and dropping their debt into a scape goat company.

Now; What I said above is what I think it will take; that is Not me saying they Should be bailed out.
 
   / Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand #90  
The UAW is what brought IH down... in 1950 they negotiated that workers automatically get any position they apply for if they were the most senior applicant, meaning that in 30 years time their leadership had rendered ineffective, seriously harming IH's profitability versus competitors. When renegotiating the deal in 1979, they went on strike for almost 6 months, right before the economic crisis struck.


This was another reason for Tenneco/Case to shut down the Rock Island, Illinois plant, fire everyone under IH UAW contract and begin to ship the production line of the 88 series to the Case plant in Racine, Wisconsin to build the Magnum.

I cannot find any reports of strikes at the German IHC Neuss works

The UAW is what brought IH down... in 1950 they negotiated that workers automatically get any position they apply for if they were the most senior applicant, meaning that in 30 years time their leadership had rendered ineffective, seriously harming IH's profitability versus competitors. When renegotiating the deal in 1979, they went on strike for almost 6 months, right before the economic crisis struck.


This was another reason for Tenneco/Case to shut down the Rock Island, Illinois plant, fire everyone under IH UAW contract and begin to ship the production line of the 88 series to the Case plant in Racine, Wisconsin to build the Magnum.

I cannot find any reports of strikes at the German IHC Neuss works

From your own linked article;
"Among the many changes McCardell made was to fire 11,000 of the company's 15,000 mid- and upper-level managers, whom McCardell felt were too close to UAW shop stewards.[10] McCardell took personal control of IH's labor relations, and appointed a new vice president of human resources, W. Grant Chandler (who was to assist McCardell in all union negotiations).[10] McCardell's actions stripped the company of nearly all its experienced labor negotiators, and those who remained were mostly ignored during the upcoming round of negotiations.[10] McCardell and Chandler had little labor relations experience, however, and none in heavy manufacturing or in negotiating with the UAW.[10]"

McCardell was the reason IH failed not the Unions or the employees, he was determined to bust the Union and have his own way, that way led to the downfall of IH, not the Union.

Without the unions in the early 1900's the "middle" class would never have developed in this country. Their increased lead to increases for all working Americans.

I have to wonder about a Dutchy lecturing us on unions and production.
 

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