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Well there was that airliner that came down on an abandoned airfield after liter/gallon/pounds/kilos conversions were calculated wrong and it ran out of fuel mid flight.

Well that's in the general field of Transportation. Close enough to Towing Wrong? No? :)
The Gimili Glider.
1983. Shouldn't this be in YMBO thread? :LOL:
 
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Well it was hauling a**.

Before it ran out of gas.
I either hadn't heard that story or had forgotten it. Quite a story. The pilots were reprimanded, but I didn't read what happened to the engineers who put the wrong conversion into the flight manual
 
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The 7/8 inch is the thread size. Seems like they were a 7/8-18 thread if I remember correctly. We have 10-12-14 mm thread spark plugs with the 14 mm being the most common thread size and 5/8 3/4 18mm and 13/16 spark plug sockets. Don't remember the wrench size for the 7/8 inch or 18 mm thread plugs Haven't seen a 7/8 or 18 mm in years..
7/8" thread size? That seems huge for a spark plug.
 
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I just watched the story of the Gimli Glider on Smithsonian channel. As I recall the ground crew and the pilot made the same error. The biggest problem was the fuel gauges weren’t working and they thought it was OK to fly anyway.
 
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I just watched the story of the Gimli Glider on Smithsonian channel. As I recall the ground crew and the pilot made the same error. The biggest problem was the fuel gauges weren’t working and they thought it was OK to fly anyway.
According to the YouTube video I just watched on it, they were told to fly it after using a dip stick to check the fuel. There
was a conversion factor in the flight manual for that purpose but it was wrong, so when they calculated their fuel it was wrong.
 
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According to the YouTube video I just watched on it, they were told to fly it after using a dip stick to check the fuel. There
was a conversion factor in the flight manual for that purpose but it was wrong, so when they calculated their fuel it was wrong.
Doesn't it suck when someone writing the manual is dyslexic

Buddy had an old Bronco jacked up on 44's with a Hurst shifter on the floor.

He decided to do a tune up. Instead of getting the plugs, plug wires, and distributer cap first, he pulled everything off.

He then went to discount auto and got what he needed. Then once it came to installing the distributer cap, rotor and attaching the plug wires, he was at a loss.

So he called the auto parts store for the firing order so he could hook it all back up. Didn't work.

I then called and got the firing order and couldn't figure it out.

Finally he got fed up and sold it for cheap.

The guy who bought it had his wife drive him over. Didn't bring a trailer, and they showed up in a little car.

Guy did the paperwork, handed over the money, got the keys.

He then walked out to the Bronco, popped the hood, disconnected the distributer cap, rotated it 180° and reattached it.

Jumped in and fired the bronco up

Chilton and Haines manuals had the firing order reversed.
 
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Doesn't it suck when someone writing the manual is dyslexic

Buddy had an old Bronco jacked up on 44's with a Hurst shifter on the floor.

He decided to do a tune up. Instead of getting the plugs, plug wires, and distributer cap first, he pulled everything off.

He then went to discount auto and got what he needed. Then once it came to installing the distributer cap, rotor and attaching the plug wires, he was at a loss.

So he called the auto parts store for the firing order so he could hook it all back up. Didn't work.

I then called and got the firing order and couldn't figure it out.

Finally he got fed up and sold it for cheap.

The guy who bought it had his wife drive him over. Didn't bring a trailer, and they showed up in a little car.

Guy did the paperwork, handed over the money, got the keys.

He then walked out to the Bronco, popped the hood, disconnected the distributer cap, rotated it 180° and reattached it.

Jumped in and fired the bronco up

Chilton and Haines manuals had the firing order reversed.
A distributor can go in two ways 180 degrees apart. I bet he had the plug wires on correctly but all you do is loosen the distributor, pull it up a little, rotate the rotor 180, and reinstall it.
 
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Chilton and Haines manuals had the firing order reversed.
I spent a long night in the shop where I worked putting new gears and a Detroit in the Dana 44 in my Jeep.

Seemed like the contact pattern just kept getting worse. Finally went back to the original shims (thankfully I had taken notes as I went), then following my instinct did the opposite of what the Haynes manual said to do.

Had it done in two more tries, just in time for putting the tools away, driving the Jeep out, and watch the boss and other employee arrive for work.
 
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According to the YouTube video I just watched on it [The Gimli Glider], they were told to fly it after using a dip stick to check the fuel. There
was a conversion factor in the flight manual for that purpose but it was wrong, so when they calculated their fuel it was wrong.
Wikipedia has a fairly comprehensive article on The Gimli Glider including the aftermath, investigation, and later history. In the article, Wikpedia used the word "dripstick" that I thought was a typo, but I clicked on the word to discover a dripstick is a standpipe that is withdrawn from the underside of the wing until the level of the top of the pipe is at the level of the fuel at which point the fuel begins to "drip" from the tube. The dripstick was correct, but confusion over conversion factors made their calculations wrong. They had the number of pounds of fuel that they should have had kilos of fuel. Since 1 kg = 2.2 lbs, they made it about halfway.
 
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Doesn't it suck when someone writing the manual is dyslexic

Buddy had an old Bronco jacked up on 44's with a Hurst shifter on the floor.

He decided to do a tune up. Instead of getting the plugs, plug wires, and distributer cap first, he pulled everything off.

He then went to discount auto and got what he needed. Then once it came to installing the distributer cap, rotor and attaching the plug wires, he was at a loss.

So he called the auto parts store for the firing order so he could hook it all back up. Didn't work.

I then called and got the firing order and couldn't figure it out.

Finally he got fed up and sold it for cheap.

The guy who bought it had his wife drive him over. Didn't bring a trailer, and they showed up in a little car.

Guy did the paperwork, handed over the money, got the keys.

He then walked out to the Bronco, popped the hood, disconnected the distributer cap, rotated it 180° and reattached it.

Jumped in and fired the bronco up

Chilton and Haines manuals had the firing order reversed.
Had this happen to me with a 91 pickup. My buddy’s son dropped a 351 into it (was a 302). We couldn’t get it to run. It just coughed and backfired. I was going by the chilton manual, which was wrong.
 

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