parts at outrageous prices

[RayIN]

How about $20 for 1 lynch pin. Outlet Store - Complete Tractor
I doubt this online store will survive.

 

[Jstpssng]

How about $20 for 1 lynch pin. Outlet Store - Complete Tractor
I doubt this online store will survive.

Ah, but you can get next day air for only $23.00.

 

[jyoutz]

TSC sells lynch pins for $2. The heavy duty pins are $3.

 

[RayIN]

Ah, but you can get next day air for only $23.00.

I bought a pack of 10 off Amazon for $12-free shipping.

 

[mikester]

I bought a pack of 10 off Amazon for $12-free shipping.

You aren't looking hard enough on Amazon there are $2 pins being sold for $20 with $40 shipping...

Those are for the government agencies to order from

 

[Carl_NH]

Another example $729. for the hyd cylinder for the Kubota snow plow Kubota #77700-08404 CYLINDER,2"X6 1/

Instead of a common 2.5" cylinder with 14" closed with a 6" stroke and say 3/4 or 1" pins - Kubota specs are 13" closed, 19.5 open 6.5" stroke and 3/4" on one end and 7/8" on the other...

I found a NOS on ebay for $180...

 

[dodge man]

They marked it down, it’s only $19.99 now.

 

[jyoutz]

You aren't looking hard enough on Amazon there are $2 pins being sold for $20 with $40 shipping...

Those are for the government agencies to order from

Government agencies can only order from GSA approved vendors at negotiated rates that are typically less than you or I can buy for. Unless the agency is affiliated with the Pentagon. They have their own system.

 

[WinterDeere]

Government agencies can only order from GSA approved vendors at negotiated rates that are typically less than you or I can buy for. Unless the agency is affiliated with the Pentagon. They have their own system.

I have sold a lot to the government over the years, specifically Army and Navy. Their documentation requirements always quadruple the cost associated with producing anything for them.

I don't make $2 or $20 lynch pins, but I did work for a company that made $1.5M amplifiers, for which we charged the Army $5M each. The biggest singular difference between the $1.5M commercial product and the $5M military product, was the Biblical levels of testing, documentation and review required. In fact, we had to quadruple the test time allocation, and hire additional staff just to handle the documentation. The Army hired an outside firm to handle their end of specifying the documentation requirements, and then later reviewing and approving it all.

Having worked my whole life in commercial industry, where few things are documented as well as you'd like, and even if it were you can no longer find the required documents after key people leave the organization, I can appreciate why they go to these lengths. But it does come with a very definite cost.

The increased testing time and requirements were due to their anticipation of new requirements, yet unknown today, which would arise during the lifetime of the product. So, they requested that the product can perform and be tested for operating parameters which seem absolutely ridiculous today, but may save them from obsolescence when new threats are identified.

Similar systems went to other non-US military installations (UK, Turkey, etc.) for $3M'ish. Again, all dependent on the level of work required to get the installation approved. The US requirements were the most thorough, but also the most expensive in which to operate.

 

[D&D]

I bought a pack of 10 off Amazon for $12-free shipping.

But where they the special ones for “industrial tractors” ?

 

[mike69440]

Almost anything Kubota. Try $113 for a replacement spring for a tractor seat.Or $22 for the plastic windows crank handle to a 1100C.
Both items are still sitting in Kubota's warehouse.

 

[D&D]

You aren't looking hard enough on Amazon there are $2 pins being sold for $20 with $40 shipping...

Those are for the government agencies to order from

 

[grsthegreat]

I got this kit a few years back from harbor freight

 

[jyoutz]

I have sold a lot to the government over the years, specifically Army and Navy. Their documentation requirements always quadruple the cost associated with producing anything for them.

I don't make $2 or $20 lynch pins, but I did work for a company that made $1.5M amplifiers, for which we charged the Army $5M each. The only real difference between the $1.5M commercial product and the $5M military product, was the Biblical levels of testing, documentation and review required. In fact, we had to quadruple the test time allocation, and hire additional staff just to handle the documentation. The Army hired an outside firm to handle their end of specifying the documentation requirements, and then later reviewing and approving it all.

Having worked my whole life in commercial industry, where few things are documented as well as you'd like, and even if it were you can no longer find the required documents after key people leave the organization, I can appreciate why they go to these lengths. But it does come with a very definite cost.

The increased testing time and requirements were due to their anticipation of new requirements, yet unknown today, which would arise during the lifetime of the product. So, they requested that the product can perform and be tested for operating parameters which seem absolutely ridiculous today, but may save them from obsolescence when new threats are identified.

Similar systems went to other non-US military installations (UK, Turkey, etc.) for $3M'ish. Again, all dependent on the level of work required to get the installation approved. The US requirements were the most thorough, but also the most expensive in which to operate.

Yeah as I said, the military has their own procurement system. Civilian agencies use GSA and prices are cheaper than most people can buy them for on the open market. For example, last year I bought 2 F-150 4x4 quad cab trucks for field use. $40k each. Try this at your local Ford dealer.

 

[bigtiller]

I'd like to buy a locking lynch pin like this one but nobody has one, not even my JD dealer can get one for me, and it came off of my new JD tractor.

 

[WinterDeere]

I'd like to buy a locking lynch pin like this one but nobody has one, not even my JD dealer can get one for me, and it came off of my new JD tractor.

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If it came from Deere, it will be in the Parts Catalog. No exceptions.

https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/

 

[grsthegreat]

 

[bdhsfz6]

Government agencies can only order from GSA approved vendors at negotiated rates that are typically less than you or I can buy for. Unless the agency is affiliated with the Pentagon. They have their own system.

Ahhh... That's why I can't find those solid gold toilet seats on Amazon!

 

[jyoutz]

Ahhh... That's why I can't find those solid gold toilet seats on Amazon!

Who knows where the military gets those?

 

[dstig1]

I knew a guy who worked for GE waaaay back. He told me a story about the "real reason" for $800 toilet seats. No idea if it is correct, but sounded reasonable. He said the contracts often have overruns and such and those cost get spread out over everything for some reason. So if they charge an extra 1 mil for some change or something then they would divide that out across every thing in the contract so every bolt and nut and whatnot would look extra expensive as they all got a slice of that over run cost but it wasn't that the part was actually that expensive. Seemed logical.