Anyone live near a solar Farm?

   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #31  
If one is against nuclear power, they must consider that the Sun is a nuclear power plant. Even wind is powered by the Sun.

If nuclear plants would be immune from earthquakes, store their own waste for the next 10 billion years and be totally free I'd be all for them!
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm?
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#32  
I feel we need diverse sources of power. There are pros and cons to each, and diversity helps create a constant flow of energy given different challenges that each may encounter. i.e. if Mount Saint Helen blows up again, solar will be greatly reduced, same as NG and oil when some wacko decides to destroy some pipelines...
I've always said that the power generation industry is like a 3-legged stool. You need reliability, sustainability and cost. None of the power types provide all three on their own. But all together they do.

You can even make the argument that there's a 4th leg, national security, and again diversity is the safeguard.

One of the benefits of coal is you can have a 30, 60, 90 day supply, or more, sitting at the point of use as a safeguard against weather, union strikes etc.
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm?
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#33  
If nuclear plants would be immune from earthquakes, store their own waste for the next 10 billion years and be totally free I'd be all for them!
All the nuclear plants operating in this country are 1950's technology. I think the modern nuclear plants are fueled differently and don't have the same spent fuel issues. The new plants also have some safety systems that use the law of physics to contain the reaction, rather than relying on cooling pumps and other controls.

Molten Salt Reactor
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #34  
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #35  
I'm not sure where these numbers came from, but they don't seem to align with other sources, e.g. NREL;
$1,500/kW for utility scale PV capex
($3,000/kW for residential PV capex)
Other technologies here;

All the best,

Peter
A quick Google search, and thats the first thing I found. I dont vouch for the source, or the results; but its not like Solar farms are Vastly out of the range, when you consider the low operating costs. Ugly, maybe; the best thing available, maybe not; but they arent simply a dumb idea. Maybe not the best idea, but not the worst either.
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #36  
I worry that we might overload the Sun. Does anyone know where the breaker or fuse is, and how to reset or replace it?
its on the other side of the Sun. In the shade.
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #37  
All the nuclear plants operating in this country are 1950's technology. I think the modern nuclear plants are fueled differently and don't have the same spent fuel issues. The new plants also have some safety systems that use the law of physics to contain the reaction, rather than relying on cooling pumps and other controls.

Molten Salt Reactor
Depending on the fuel type they still have spent fuel issues, and containment vessel disposal issues. The fuel recycling is easier than that of water cooled reactors. High intensity radiation does eventually make many previous inert items radioactive, including the sodium.

However, I think sodium fast breeder reactors have the unsexy problem of containing and purifying the sodium during operation. Real world experience suggests this is not trivial.

Sodium also has the issue of being flammable, and of generating hydrogen gas when meeting water. There were five sodium fires at the French Phénix sodium cooled reactor, and the Japanese also had a sodium leak and fire at their Monju that caused a 15 year shutdown. While sodium has some intrinsically safe moderation attributes, the sodium has to stay around the core.

More here;

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #38  
Like wind farms, I did a lot of surveying for solar farms. I’ve spent some time zooming around in maps a quite a few of them have built. Most but not all of them are on high quality farm ground. One was built in a small town called Sauget Illinois, which is near St. Louis on the Illinois side. Not exaggerating the town is mostly a Super Fund site. Not many homes, no farming and some heavy industrial. That’s the kind of place that’s perfect for solar farms.
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #39  
There's a cloverleaf on I95 which was covered with trees, preventing you from seeing oncoming traffic as you approached. They cut the trees down and put in solar panels. Now you can see what's coming long before you have to merge.

That's the kind of place which is perfect for solar farms.
 
   / Anyone live near a solar Farm? #40  
There's a cloverleaf on I95 which was covered with trees, preventing you from seeing oncoming traffic as you approached. They cut the trees down and put in solar panels. Now you can see what's coming long before you have to merge.

That's the kind of place which is perfect for solar farms.
California aqueduct is 705 miles long; if we figure its right of way at, 40 ft wide; we end up at 3420 acres. You top that will panels; you have both energy, but also prevent evaporation. I assume it has access roads, for maintenance?

Reading just a few seconds, its min 40 ft wide (the canal, not the row), and in areas, as wide as 110 ft; so, likely the ROW (or easements, not sure on that), is likely 200 ft.

Although, a square or rectangular is probably more efficient to build
 

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