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I agree with all of what you are saying for the benefit of goose neck, yourself being a commercial contractor it make perfect sense but I also would stick with bumper pull, ops has plenty of trucks, depending on the amount of use and length of pull I would argue a bumper is a lot cheaper set up...

yes some application it doesn't make sense but for low quantity it can, you have to take account the delivery price which vastly varies depending on your location and sometime you need to rehandle the material since a dump truck can't go where you want it to go... it was my case when I did my...

spend the extra $ and get it galvanized, way better resell value and it wont get rusted out or paint flaking on you.

lol..oups wrong thread

Diamond harrow works pretty good to remove clumps... do you disk when it was very dry ? its is normal that wet/damp ground create clumps. but I have used diamond harrow and it work very well after disking.

I've never been much interested in traveling, but that's me...Things can be different for person to person but there is something to be said about having the opportunity to look back and visually see what you have accomplish and spend your money on, that is super rewarding and addicting... For...

can you imagine what the impact must of been inside the cab I am sure it wake the guy up...

Is that Galvanized ? if you are planning to keep it a while you might want to consider Galvanized if its not already in your plans...

if I would buy Kioti which I don't know how interested I would be, it's a 20 minute haul but any other brand its a 4h haul so it's not much of a option to simply ''take it to the dealer''...

My round baler 4 x 5 is actually require less PTO hp then a square baler, yeah ok it heavier to pull up hill with a full bale in it but still 60hp is plenty for both its just odd when you see the hp requirement for a round baler its way over estimated...

Not all some yes, in my home town we have a few very competent ones...

from post #1 it wasn't obvious there where hollow, that info came later on....

To be honest go to your local home depot and ask what they have that would give the highest strength .... google say its the link below I know someone who used it for the same exact purpose but I haven't personally used it... then there's a bunch of other examples, I would diffinatly used a...

maybe she piss herself in the accident 😆

yup I could use one of these, even more then a Sherp ... I posted a video below of their newest version This is a sherp

one of these would be nice but if we are really dreaming id take one of these and while we are at it one of these and a excavator would be sweet

I would say it depends on the price... when you see a 3 years old vehicle they often still ask top dollar for it like $20,000 but it has 100k on it when you can add $10,000 and have one new its a no brainer to go new... The price of used vehicle is very good lately, considering the maintained...

No they won't... its one or the other... I am guessing there is wood behind the bricks and he drilled holes through the bricks to anchor it. I don't know if there's a way to know how solid that wood his or to detect studs behind the bricks... but you are right sometime these bricks are simply...

I think everyone would agree that you’re doing a great job, at least from what I can tell. It’s obvious that you care and that you provide guidance without pushing too hard. I lift my hat to you, keep it up.

Anchor bolts like these should do the trick.

how dose he feel about these two choice ? (civic or mazda) what dose he want to get ?

ho I see sorry for my misunderstanding, your right it is written clearly in post #1.... my brain simply went to co-financed .... In this case I would assume you will have to co-signed although he has a secure full time job plus a credit card history so might not hard to say... easy to say now i...

I would expect he won't need a co-signature having a full time jobs and a few loans under his belt.

"the most useful implements" ?? hard not to find that funny as a statement. your #5 is a good idea, I would think it would work great for that ''5)We have a horse paddock that's compacted with sand on it. It's about 50x60, level & hard as concrete. Horse piles I clean area every 2 weeks or...

I am happy for you Jstpssng, you simply can’t go wrong with a lab

no more mud hole on the property

Your perhaps right but batteries are not cheep by any means... I still love the concept of individual options something compagnies have steered off within the last decade or so. Its fine to have them as bundles (even that is not so much of a thing anymore) as a discount but give the individual...

If I would live in the city I would get one for sure but where I live I can easily get by without one.

I wish they would do a gas version of Jeff Bezos truck. By that I mean you can choose every single option one by one and make it as basic as you want... mine would be heater, 4x4 and a stereo.

Cowboy coffee ehn ... We simply call that coffee at camp...

yes they all do but its more of a test run then a break in, they check for leaks, temp, oil pressure, sound and vibration more then a break in.

You mean run in as test run which is not a full break in, but some people (sound like you also) say this is all its required for break in. is that your position ?

If true you won't notice 10% until you try or race the exact same bike that was broke in differently. This is a life long debate, I tend to be like you on the conservative camp but I also like giving her, drive fast and be first so I do a hybrid as I described above, I think its the best of...

Lots of people say the only break in is when it get started off the assembly line and the methodology for 4 stroke (its different for 2 stoke) is run idle for a little while then slowly and steadily increase the throttle output, you repeat that 3 times and each time go higher in RPM until you...

I would lay these first that's what they are for, they are no cheep but they cut humidity right out plus if there's minor leak water doesn't touch any wood surface.

she is beautiful!!! what kind of shepherd is that ?

For myself too its crazy the amount of shrooms there is this year.

mine would be too big for your tractor but it’s made by TMG industrial for 50hp to 100hp … it works really well to pick up logs but mine is a root grappler their’s all kind of different profile and configuration

dominoes for grown ups 🤷‍♂️

very nice color on this cedar

In order to call something or someone my friend I need to trust it, when a product show ingredient that are deem ''safe in small quantity'' such as fragrance and Oxybenzone / Benzophenone -3 you won't convince me that is safe and if you add a lack of quality control and loose regulation on top...

I ''brush cut'' 11 acres of field and all my trail network, it took me 2/3 days, I was so sore by the time I was done plus I had a huge pain in the neck I definitely got my quota for a while.

ho if I add the winter tires to the list I have 4 vehicles to do...

yup... as MtnViewRanch said... it depends on the implement, I mostly use the center holes but some need to be on the lower hole to lift high enough.

Ah, that wasn’t my intent at all, sorry to darken your coffee. That’s why I keep three of them around… so there's always a backup when one goes into retirement mode.

ho I also need to empty my summer windshield washer fluid in my vehicles and change it with winter one... you don't want to forget about this one!!

A oil change on the tractor and everything else that will be store for the winter, along with fuel stabilizer in all gas tank, piking up everything that is laying around, at one point Ill hock up the snow blower and the snow blade, I have to winterize the camper as well... from the bears...

ouch... yeah that not good

New things that is happening with my trio, I get Laika (my Lab) to go fetch her bole for feeding time and once she dose I get her to go get Oakley (my golden, collie mix) food bole as well, its supper funny she dose it with such of excitement... Oakley is loosing a lot of pep this year, his...

the new one almost need to go through the wall...

Mine used to be that cheep but it skyrocket in the last 10 years with their carbon tax but still way cheaper then electricity

I would pay to get natural gas at my property... even a gas hot water tank is a lot better then a electric one.

it should lift higher if you go the the lower hole... you also could tighter the high link.

I don't know how expensive Natural gas is or electricity for you but for us the cheapest you can have is natural gas and its such of a peace of mind, I don't think there's any downside. I would run everything you can on natural gas, furnace, hot water, BBQ grill, stove you name it I would run...

As I wrote, if they would've I would only have myself to blame... in life you need accountability for your action.

lol... I was loaded with firewood and yes I drove very smoothly that time... but don't be fool its not always the case but when I am overloaded I tend to be careful.

I forgot a axe on a trailer fender once as well but it stayed there the whole way lol (lucky me)

most likely a glitch since you where able to post this...

I always put a peace of belt or mud flap (rubber) behind all my trailer plates it prevent them to get beat up by flying rocks... but this magnet plate holder is pretty cool.

I went back and made sure I was on Amazon Canada and found it and it's $100 CA, and this one I can add to cart

mine show its $42 but like you I can't add it to cart for some reason.

These won't be a problem at all even if they are big, they have shallow roots... the big one you go fairly high and push them over, back up and pop the roots up and your done.

I have done quite of bit of clearing and a lot of it depends on the tree species, soil type, water saturation level and how open it is, in a dense forest everything is easier, but in a overgrown field the roots are really anchored down, conifers yes for about just any situation they are easy to...

you might just need...

yes it's the gate to bring the tractor in for grading or if I bring more material.

that's so cheep, yeah I also have a 700cc and I pay $1500 or something like that, I haven't got insurance for that long... I tried to get some insurance from a well known cheep company but they wouldn't insure my XT 250... its too small I presume, it was on the black list.

lots of factor at play, age, CC's and experience (amount of time insured).... Motorcycle insurance where higher for me but its going down.

I could be interesting to see a detail cost analysis, lots of folks spend lots of money in accessories but that's a choice, then there is the initial cost for the gear (which is not there for a vehicle) and the high insurance cost but these two decrease over the years, but it also has a low...

ouch

carry on

I was talking about quads, 2 strokes are significantly easier to pull start. You won't see a high displacement 4 stroke sled with a pull start.

I have seen it on a quad a few times as well, a ground issue and the fan kills the battery... and yes these pull start are very hard to pull, one would think the cord wouldn't hold, I think 450cc is pretty much the most CC's they make with a pull start.

I wonder what would be the odds of a battery to die as such without warning but lets say that's the case.... I would be wondering how you would keep the jump pack connected without it falling but if you find a way my guess would be it would last for a while. Even if its not made for that as you...

I was talking about the future, it will come, that's what they are doing in Canada and other part of the world.

redneck santa 😆 lmao

honestly as long as you take care of it, it will/can last a while, if it goes dead charge it right away and take it out during the winter. Mine lasted 4 years but then I kept it there last winter (only unplugged it) and it died.. there's a range of battery for this bike from $50 to $300 I...

You can certainly push start it, and it will start with a dead battery its somewhat challenging to do by yourself without a hill to go down with, but I did it multiple times with mine (down a hill). I ran into problem when the battery was completely dead a wouldn't hold any charge anymore, I...

I have seen people talking about it but not policy making people, simply critical thinkers and they all say it's impossible unless there's a massive overhaul in electricity infrastructure both in delivery capacity and production which sound like a colosale task.

I believe the only time I lost something was with my tailgate down... that was my hockey bag and a small jerry can...ho I forgot my wallet on the roof of my car once :rolleyes:... I also will stop and check after a few miles making sure my straps are still tight.

I bought a new to me bailer a little 4x4 soft core and a few culvert, now I have enough culvert to put in all my gullies.

That be nice... I wrote that because of the EV argument treads over the years and apparently according to the research of some individual the electricity is supposed to get cheaper (I don't doubt they actually found that information) as the years comes despite a aging infrastructure, growth in...

yes you are right, mine is a 2016 and I had that happen to me and even if you jump start it, it wont run for long if the battery can't hold a charge. It will stall at some point when you shift regardless of how much throttle you gave it before hand. Or simply put it will run until you let go of...

One of my friend told me a story, he was working in a addict for his buddy (a general contractor) and he found a substantial amount of cash stashed, something like 200k so he gave it to the owner and said ho you forgot to take this out of there... the owner reply that he just moved in and it...

As far are op question if I had to change the bit I would do it as it lay on the ground or hook it up to the 3 point and change it there on the vertical position.

when I said the ''stand fuss'' I mean why hang it at all I lay mine on the ground or on a skid and it is one of the lightest and easiest attachment to hook up for me so I don't understand the need for a stand.

yeah a foot wider would be a problem as well as if it’s longer but i could always make my trails wider and straighter … but my main concern would be weight i have a few soft spots and i hate ruts.

I don't get the stand fuss... its one of the easiest thing to hook on and unhook for me.

I lost a full bag of hockey equipment once, it slid off the truck bed ( I had no tailgate)... I got home (1.8 miles away) raced back and nothing... ho man I was devastated, I thought my season was over and I only had myself to blame. I was playing competitive hockey back then, it was all brand...

I would agree with that, my 60hp is ''too small'' for some of my application but perfect for my trails maintenance and bush work so if I would get a 80 to 100hp tractor I would have to keep my 60hp tractor or get a smaller one since it would be too big and heavy for my bush work.

I don't know if you ever tried to plow dry clay but I can't do it, it won't go in, it will simply drag and scratch the soil. I have to do it in the spring or fall where the soil is wet (moist), fall is better its easier to broke down the following year, spring yes it clods up and hard to break...

special kind of stupid alright

for me the biggest question is soil type... the best time to plow is when the soil is wet, not as much of a constraint in sandy soil but in clay it is... If its clay and you have snow tires they will become slick very quickly (fill up with mud) and it wont matter how much weight you have... you...

injury cause by moose are actually more common then by bears it's just the injury from a bear attack are more serious... 10 to 20 people get attack each year by moose in North America... the rut season and bow hunting as well as cows defending their calf from dogs or hikers are mostly the reason.

Mine is a snow blade, its a 8', I am in Northern Ontario Canada it is quick connect and has hydraulic angles (tilt)... I have a 60hp tractor @ 3 to 4000 lbs with loaded rear tires and snow blower in the back and to effectively use the tilt in heavy snow I would need snow chains on all 4 but...

not only that the dud doesn't even seem to understand the concept of breaking never mind a clutch

Kanasta has one of the biggest NG reserve in the world but they want too keep it untap to ''save the world from CO2''

But but the government said electricity will become cheaper....

lol ...speaking of not made for it... so one of my friend who is not much of a skills rider has a little Honda monkey 150cc and he went to pass his final license (we have 3 stages or test, written, the cones test then a road test) I told him what to do and what not to do and yet he failed... I...

it is as far as risk of accident not death your right unless you go by death per miles or per used then the ladder are still more dangerous... you have to compare apple to apple...

you think you do, I also hop you also never goes up a ladder that has a higher ''suicide'' rate then riding a motorcycle.

I love the XT250 for the property and quad trails but not for much more, maybe a Sunday drive if its less then a few miles but still just for this I don't want to sell it and I will keep it for ever as it will last for ever.

I believe every rider knows how dangerous it is. But we get comfortable, or unlucky, and sometimes things go wrong. Still, many of us choose to keep riding not out of denial, but because it's one of the few times we feel truly alive. And if you’re not feeling alive, are you really living?

The horse practice pen or outdoor arena is finally almost completed I got all the post in, both gates, only one side of the fencing to built and more rocks to pick up but its coming along. Yes Vegas is always around and most of the times in the way but that's ok I rather that then not knowing...

I saw something you don't see everyday last week ... too bad I was in a rush I would've turn around to take a picture, it would've been worth it. It was a older car from the 90's pulling a 25 to 30ft newer camper, it had a plywood wind deflector on the roof... from distance you could only see...

like the saying ''If you don't know who the annoying neighbor is... it's probably you''

yeah I had a hard time getting my hay to dry up, I got some nice days but no sun it took for ever for it to dried up.

It comes to a point with experience you can tell what the auger is doing and what you need to do in your soil and moisture...

yes for sandy soil you have to turn it off like you did... watch to not go too deep and exceed the lifting capacity (aka lifting the front end) For clay if its wet you have to be careful if it corkscrew in you have to lift it parodically if not it can get stuck, as long as it comes out in...

I would consider a dump trailer, I know I would... you can carry a tractor, and everything you mentioned above. You can easily rent it out to make some cash plus you never have to unload it by hand and haul anything with it .... just a idea to consider ... my next trailer will be a dump trailer...

or a vehicle without a back up camera... Before I backed up my first trailer I didn't know how... Although I don't remember anyone showing me, I am pretty certain I figured it out on my own... and they are not going to learn with this technology.

I saw it operate on my brother in law truck, it works surprisingly well... Would I use it or need to? hell no but some people surely should. Seeing some folks backup their camper in a camp ground is pretty funny to see as well. The hardest thing I ever back up is my short narrow trailer that...

that's the easy part... the hard part is having all 3 looking at you and getting my Lab with her eyes open ...

here the result

we are also working on leave it and the done command.

I got all my hay done … 40 round bales and about 300 small square bales ( i didn’t count them) it was a challenge to get good weather but we got her done.

nice mine also has a favourite log but I only throws it about 10 times a day … i make her work for it … and when she get board, she goes in the creek or lake for a cool off …but ya like saw dust or hay flying in the air and she catches it in the air pretty funny

i didn’t know they where that playful … all she wants is to play!

I often get ask how she dose it … that’s how … btw the GSD got up there on her own.

I ran out of gravel so I ordered an other 3 load … it was wet so it took more then I expected but I am well underway on the rail\fence now …

and the bugs this year I tell ya … well it goes with the rain and we had it oufff ….

finally took some vacation from work!! … got the horse rink level out, the grass mowed, some pit run delivered, then spread it all … and ho some manure spread in the field ( nothing was really growing) Looked at the weather and there’s 5 days no rain coming up, nothing hot but we (my dad ans...

ho sorry, I got confuse since its the same truck in both picture.

nice trailer !! how's that truck handling this load ?

Its your thread Arly we are simply along for the ride

it sufly is cabable of dong so

To me get what ever equipment is best for your fire break and buy a pull behind road grader for your road maintenance.

Are you looking for a pulling harness or a no pull ? yeah the tactical harness looks pretty slick... I never had any problem with my harness, although I not sure what brand I have...

Looks very clean to me, the tires are in good shape and 10k is very cheep yes that's a good deal!!

A car hauler with double axel will work for width (72 inch wide tractor) with a tandem with 3500lbs axel it will be closely legal with a GVWR: ~7,000lbs.... the 4520 weigh around 3800lbs plus the FEL plus the backhoe, you are likely looking at 7000lbs if he has filled read tires... So if you...

ho man I had to restrained myself hard to not copy & paste what AI has to say about this opinions lol... You are in tittle to your opinion and I would even add it's a valid one but personally as long as its stated (copy and paste from AI) I don't see the arm in it, that way you could simply...

already quite a bit bigger

I have ''telescopic' 3point arms, it helps. More you do it quicker it becomes. I lined myself up as best as I can, then I put my bucket down so I can creep forward or backwards using the bucket without going back on the tractor. I save quite a bit of time that way. For me what take the longest...

problem meaning time consuming or giving you a hard time ...

ha k that make sense I just didn't know the context I was like is that a insult or a way to describe someone lol

You will need to get some loose material to fill the holes and cut the bumps both disk or tiller will accomplish that but with a disk you might need to do may passes. I have hard clay and I reseeded a portion of a field without moldboard plowing it. I only disk it and I did many and many passes...

and what is that supposed to mean?

my uncle used to say a variation of this one... There's my way, your ways and the right way of doing things. I don't care which way you chose as long as its the right way.

Lots of engines the oil dip stick will pops out and will overflow through there. On a quad I have see going up through the valves and out the airbox.

my favorite is .... chop chop we are wasting daylight.... (my wife hate it when I say it lol) ''its getting dark'' don't worry I got lights on this thing andddd of course its 5 o clock somewhere

I use the manual amount as a guideline to know how much to purchase and for how much to put in, but the dipstick is the true measurement not what the manual say. When I do my oil change I will put oil in until I am getting close to the manual amount (around half a liter less then recommended)...

I could never find permatran anywhere, I used duratran in mine, still not any cheaper.

Look at these guys they have water in their basement... a saying we say when someone pants are too short.

I basically never use high range on my HST tractor unless on flat ground and not under load, medium range always until its too much, so often for moldboard plowing and pulling my disk I have to go to low range, I can get a full buckets in a fluff out pile of gravel in medium range but if its...

no, from one of these pets stores

I got my started on burying the little pond that took some F around but after a few days I got a 70 x 25 yard area ready to spread some sand and sink some post.

well ourself up north we haven’t hit 36 *F yet but steady 77*F ish but holy we got a nice dump of rained, it rained rivers are full and ditch’s are running. so far so good and bugs are in full force

the taste of fresh blood triggers something for sure … every fresh dog i bring for a hunt I’ll feed it them the hearth of the first kill and you can see their eyes lit up then the machine is open for business!!

that's actually a good idea (y)

You would be right believing that, throttle variation helps lubrication and preventing hot/dry spots... I have learn from mechanics that during a initial break in for a 4 stroke you want steady throttle and increasing the RPM over time, for 2 stroke you want quick burst and increasing the length...

Not me, I let go at each end of the swing when its not cutting and full throttle in the between (if required), a 2 stroke engine like throttle variation.

What do you mean get off the couch ???

Since one of my dog caught one, they are now obsess with them which is good. There's one under this pile I will have to help them by moving this pile of post.

I think what you meant to say was '' worry about forgiveness later''

I understand you don't want to trespass and ask permission but its not like you will conduct work or make trails and what not its a momentarily trespass to make a situation safe for you, anyone would understand plus if one property is lease and the other one is a big corporation I wouldn't even...

that's a clean looking tractor

I have heard this one before and it a very funny one

:ROFLMAO: 😆

The plan this time off is to start on the outdoor horse arena I have to bury this little ''pond'' then start on the contour fence. I have all my cedar already. I am not sure if I will/should moldboard plow and till the whole thing or not, if I do I should do it before I start sinking post in...

no, I don't think overfilling is the problem... mine was overfilled from the dealer when I got it as well .... on mine (not a JD) if I go too far down too far on the joystick it will not apply force its like the de pressurize zone, play with it without going all the way to the end on the joy stick.

''what are we today??'' ...I would get as a answer ''mmm humans 🤷‍♂️'' ''No what is today date'' ... ''ho June 13th ''

I wouldn't touch her, even with a 10' pole.

Vegas (my GSD) wont eat unless I make her do a few tricks and reward her for it, then she will eat but not before. If I don't she give me a look saying I didn't deserve this ...

The fact that they get backed in the water each launch and their bearings rarely get greases by most people surely doesn’t help.

I am pretty sure they asked if you were a farm boy (grew up on a farm)

heres a few Canadian ones I once said its a F&%en ''Jackpot'' ( = a Sh&t show) over here to a foreigner she looked at me all confused and ask what did I win and why I was mad about it. ''Raining nails'' is when it's raining so hard it sound like 100 people are on the roof shingling (hammering...

Skid steers are nice especially for having all the attachment in front not that is not possible with a tractor, if Id have one it would have to be with tracks but I haven't seen a skid steer being able to hook up hay equipment like a rake or a baler so it would have to be a tractor.

ha the old ''Do what I say not what I do'' I love the gloves as a paint protector :ROFLMAO:

he doesn't need to be below the frost line its not a footing, our frost line is 6 foot can you imagine digging 6' for a walkway ? ... 6 to 8 inch base is on par for walkways even for us up north.

They would also make a good manure mucket

I am the same most 95% of my post are while I am at work lol ... at home I am simply too busy to check or post on here.

my suggestion would be to set a pully on a tree back behind the fence, then set up a rope on it and pull it with your tractor or a truck so it rips off and fall behind the fence (hopefully), then you can fall the standing piece.

ho cool mix, that's going to be a handful for most of the next decade lol you got the perfect place for them.

beautiful, all of it... the pond the puppy and your daughter of course!! what kind of dog is that ?

KWentling beat me to it but I second his comment.... utilize the tilt (bucket curl) over the lift it will be easier to lift once the bucket is fully curl back and the load is closer to the tractor.

ho boy that's something else...

I am starting to have more and more as well on my property. My dog finally got his first one, he has been trying for a few years now. One time he got one but he didn't realized they could bite too, then they got in a stand off until the wife showed up with a shovel to separate them lol.

two miss conception, one is we didn’t live as old in the past that’s false to a point yes ok in the stone age they didn’t live too old but more because of injuries then anything else … it’s not because the average life spans was 30 that people didn’t live to 90 years old it’s just lot more...

I try to not use sunscreen and simply protect myself instead with a hat and long sleeve shirt, wile making sure i get my skin exposed for about 20 to 40 minutes off the peak hours of the day for my doze of vitamin D … if you look at the statistic the country that use the most sunscreen are also...

My husky and all the husky I have seen have adjustable oiler as well.

Fist time I see such thing I had to looked it up I couldn't picture how the bucket operate, the cylinder is actually inside the boom pretty cool. Even for foundation work in tight spots it would work great.

Your base depth is solid, the problem is the thin, irregular flagstone combined with a soft top layer that holds moisture. That works fine in warmer climate but not with deep frost. Consider using polymeric sand for joints or mortar, replace sand and granite fill with quarry fines or "stone...

is your FEL quick attach / easy on easy off ? I would figure one could remove it pretty easily even without having it running?

2025 season has started with a control burn (a area I did not cut and bale last year)... Then I pass the diamond arrow where I disked last year and need to seed I am happy with the result. I also seeded, fertilized and pass the roller all before a nice rainy day. I also did some spot seeding in...

that's a winner right there !!

So it turnout mg GSD was afraid of stairs lol it was a project, I tried to make her go down on her owns but no, nothing worked, she didn’t want to hear about it so i showed her how to go down then i brought her down in my arms. She sniff around and got back up then i command her to go down and...

that's some nice dirt you got there

yes that's right, the predators will smell the placenta that's how they find the calf so the mother will hurry up and eat it and wash her calf to remove as much as the sent as possible.

Was the doe in sight? that's very cool

yeah when she is outside and focus on something she will get both ears up, sometimes she alternates between having the left and the right up but most of the time she had the right ear up only... I doubt it will change by now, I would rather her to have both up, but one down is pretty cute, one...

Vegas is 1 year old today...

Google and buy one way exclusion device for bats, set that up on their entrances. I would do it late summer early fall to avoid maternity season. I would also install lots of bat house for them to relocate in.

I am questioning this reasoning ... '' Why fold it, just remove it entirely...'' I mean at least if it's there you have the options I keep mine up but I need to lower it to bring it inside the barn or garage (I almost took the whole building down once :rolleyes:). Now put it up right after...