$10 USD For Mobil 1 !?!

   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #11  
OK, I think this is just my local NAPA gouging, but they wanted $10 a quart for Mobil 1 Synthetic. How in the heck is that even right given gas prices.

Curious, what would synthetic oil prices have to do the gas prices? Gas price is based on barrel of oil, but synthetic is not made from oil, but from NG (actually ethylene gas extracted from NG). Even if the motor oil was made from crude, there is still the packaging, power consumption, distribution, etc that goes into the cost. None of those items has dropped, but in fact gone up. Transportation costs for one. I guarantee you that if you have a load sitting on a dock, and you want me to haul it for the same rate I did 6 months ago, that load will remain on the dock. Freight capacity is in a crunch right now. You have to pay more if you want a truck to show up and haul it.
 
   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #12  
Freight capacity is in a crunch right now. You have to pay more if you want a truck to show up and haul it.

Not doubting your statement, but why? I would think with the decrease in the price of diesel fuel, transportation costs of goods should be down. What else is going on?
 
   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?!
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Curious, what would synthetic oil prices have to do the gas prices? Gas price is based on barrel of oil, but synthetic is not made from oil, but from NG (actually ethylene gas extracted from NG). Even if the motor oil was made from crude, there is still the packaging, power consumption, distribution, etc that goes into the cost. None of those items has dropped, but in fact gone up. Transportation costs for one. I guarantee you that if you have a load sitting on a dock, and you want me to haul it for the same rate I did 6 months ago, that load will remain on the dock. Freight capacity is in a crunch right now. You have to pay more if you want a truck to show up and haul it.

Well, as I get it Mobil One Synthetic is made from crude, just like regular oil but gets more highly refined and extra stuff thrown in. It is predicated on oil prices (This is why it was $3 a quart 5 years ago and now 10 a quart). If it was full synthetic (man made) I would doubt we would see the price jump.

I could be completely wrong on this as I don't make the oil myself but from what the great and mighty interweb tells me, it is just oil.
 
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   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #16  
I saw Mobil 1 at O'Reilly's today in 5 qt. for $37 US.
Rotella T6 in 4qt was $27. US
Haven't checked Wally lately.
You would think since most Syn is made from natural gas the price would be coming down too. Dino has not dropped either.
 
   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #17  
Not doubting your statement, but why? I would think with the decrease in the price of diesel fuel, transportation costs of goods should be down. What else is going on?

Freight capacity due to shortage of trucks and drivers, especially drivers. There is more freight chasing fewer available trucks. Just that simple. Has nothing to do with fuel costs. The top players in freight are getting the trucks. The low tier shippers and receivers are having to fight for any trucks. Why should I haul for a loser company that only wants to pay peanuts when I can haul product for a stand up company that is willing to pay for quality service? Like I stated, if someone has product on the dock right now that they want me to haul for the same rate as 6 months ago, it will remain sitting on the dock. I will not show up. Capacity (trucks) is down and the rate indexes are up. You want to play in the game, you have to ante up. We fought thru the recession and high fuel periods and lost over 80,000 available trucks.... in just one quarter! Now the economy is coming around and those trucks we lost are not in the system. So, more freight chasing available trucks. A very great thing from my vantage point! A tough one for the shippers, receivers, and consumers. I pulled my truck away from a dock recently just because the shipper wanted to act like a moron. Their load got to sit right where it was. I can get a load anywhere and I don't have to settle for some low life that wants to treat me like dirt or low rates. For those of us that endured the hard times, we are now in a position to call the shots.

And you can't just add trucks. You have to add drivers to operate them. The pool of available drivers that can meet all the regulatory requirements that have also been dumped on us in the last decade is just not there. You can order up all the trucks from the truck makers you want. If you can't fill them with drivers, you are no better off than before. It is the world as it is. So don't expect price decreases because oil and fuel are down. Just doesn't work out that nicely.

But there are good deals on oil, depending on source brand and amounts. I get most of my oil in bulk, usually by the drum. But I also have them throw in a case or two of full synthetic for my pickup here and there. I get it delivered free to my front door. The synthetic I get from them is a 25% Group IV PAO and 75% Group III blend. Darn good stuff. Last time I ordered it was $67 for a case of 5w30 synthetic quarts, delivered free with the rest of my order. They also include free oil sample kits and free analysis with my oil orders also. Factor that all in and it is a good value.

Check for sales. Most any oil is on sale somewhere at any given time. Check the farm and home stores, the home improvement outlets like Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, etc. Don't just limit your searches to auto parts stores and Wally World outlets. I have seen some killer sales on motor oil at times, yes, even full synthetics, in the home improvement stores.
 
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   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #18  
Freight capacity due to shortage of trucks and drivers, especially drivers. There is more freight chasing fewer available trucks. Just that simple. Has nothing to do with fuel costs. The top players in freight are getting the trucks. The low tier shippers and receivers are having to fight for any trucks. Why should I haul for a loser company that only wants to pay peanuts when I can haul product for a stand up company that is willing to pay for quality service? Like I stated, if someone has product on the dock right now that they want me to haul for the same rate as 6 months ago, it will remain sitting on the dock. I will not show up. Capacity (trucks) is down and the rate indexes are up. You want to play in the game, you have to ante up. We fought thru the recession and high fuel periods and lost over 80,000 available trucks.... in just one quarter! Now the economy is coming around and those trucks we lost are not in the system. So, more freight chasing available trucks. A very great thing from my vantage point! A tough one for the shippers, receivers, and consumers. I pulled my truck away from a dock recently just because the shipper wanted to act like a moron. Their load got to sit right where it was. I can get a load anywhere and I don't have to settle for some low life that wants to treat me like dirt or low rates. For those of us that endured the hard times, we are now in a position to call the shots.

And you can't just add trucks. You have to add drivers to operate them. The pool of available drivers that can meet all the regulatory requirements that have also been dumped on us in the last decade is just not there. You can order up all the trucks from the truck makers you want. If you can't fill them with drivers, you are no better off than before. It is the world as it is. So don't expect price decreases because oil and fuel are down. Just doesn't work out that nicely.

But there are good deals on oil, depending on source brand and amounts. I get most of my oil in bulk, usually by the drum. But I also have them throw in a case or two of full synthetic for my pickup here and there. I get it delivered free to my front door. The synthetic I get from them is a 25% Group IV PAO and 75% Group III blend. Darn good stuff. Last time I ordered it was $67 for a case of 5w30 synthetic quarts, delivered free with the rest of my order. They also include free oil sample kits and free analysis with my oil orders also. Factor that all in and it is a good value.

Check for sales. Most any oil is on sale somewhere at any given time. Check the farm and home stores, the home improvement outlets like Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, etc. Don't just limit your searches to auto parts stores and Wally World outlets. I have seen some killer sales on motor oil at times, yes, even full synthetics, in the home improvement stores.

Ask a man in the know questions, and you get answers. I had no idea, but it makes sense. Supply and demand.
 
   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #19  
Yeah, I could just relish in it, but I know this situation affects everyone else. And as usual, you can put a lot of the blame right on the folks who claim to care for you.... the government. Most of this transportation situation can be laid right at the feet of the government. Remember that when you open your wallet.
 
   / $10 USD For Mobil 1 !?! #20  
Yeah, I could just relish in it, but I know this situation affects everyone else. And as usual, you can put a lot of the blame right on the folks who claim to care for you.... the government. Most of this transportation situation can be laid right at the feet of the government. Remember that when you open your wallet.

Ahhh. Maybe thats why I have been having trouble getting a vehicle shipped from NY to my place. Been sitting a month in NY waiting for transport at an offered price. Did the same thing in 2012 & paid $875. Nobody is biting on $800 now. Offered the lower price because the price of diesel is down what? 25%? All I hear are crickets...

And is it just me or is there something fishy going on w/the price of diesel? What?, in the 90's diesel was 10-15 cents cheaper than regular. Now its over a $1 more! And yes, I've read the supply/demand stuff and ultra low sulphur diesel spin put out by the industry excuse-makers and it just doesn't add up to me.
 

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