1000 ft water line

[CADplans]

I'm starting to rethink the whole house idea and just running something for the barn and garden so.
Given that we won't use it during the winter I think I could get away with the depths that I am hitting.

I would think your frost depth is similar to mine near Roanoke VA,,
We put in two 3/4 black plastic lines right at 20 years ago,, one to the garden, one to the horse trough.

As best as I could tell, I got the lines down about 8 inches,,, the lines have never froze.

Maybe 30 years ago frost depth was deeper, but, in reality,,, 15 inches is probably SUPER deep.

The vegetation over the line will change the frost depth a LOT
bare soil can freeze close to twice as deep as soil with tall grass.,,,

 

[CobyRupert]

Does the trace line have to be a certain gauge wire and what's the max depth they can be read. I'm planning 2" pipe 600-700ft at about 3.5 ft depth.

All my trader lines are 14 gauge stranded copper. Just tape it to the pipe with the ends of the wire exposed.

Where ones frost line / pipe depth comes into play on where the magnetic trace line should be.

If the pipe is deep, putting a detectable marker tape a foot or two above it serves 2 purposes. It's easier to find with a detector, and if no attempt at detection was made, hopefully the backhoe finds the tape on the first scoop before it finds the pipe on the second.
This means having to remember to put the tape in when the trench is 1/2 back-filled (and back-filling with a 2 step process).

 

[Billrog]

22 gage bell wire is plenty taped every few to the pipe just make sure the wire is exposed at each end so it can be hooked onto with a locator.

 

[CincyFlyer]

I would think your frost depth is similar to mine near Roanoke VA,,
We put in two 3/4 black plastic lines right at 20 years ago,, one to the garden, one to the horse trough.

As best as I could tell, I got the lines down about 8 inches,,, the lines have never froze.

Maybe 30 years ago frost depth was deeper, but, in reality,,, 15 inches is probably SUPER deep.

The vegetation over the line will change the frost depth a LOT
bare soil can freeze close to twice as deep as soil with tall grass.,,,

Charts from your county show frost depth at 18" to 24". If you use a lot of water, it may never freeze, but 8" is scary shallow. Around here we bury nearly four feet.

 

[Tigershark]

Well bad news I test dug a few holes along the last 200 feet and I hit sheets of rock at 8 inches in every hole. I would be fine between 24-30 inches where I'm at now but it dropped off a ton near the actual water line so it looks like I will be getting some bigger equipment in if I want to complete this project. Really sucks

 

[Tigershark]

got some quotes for hoe ramming 1800$ per 100 ft good grief project might have come to an abrupt end unless I can get cheaper quotes

 

[CADplans]

got some quotes for hoe ramming 1800$ per 100 ft good grief project might have come to an abrupt end unless I can get cheaper quotes

500 feet of that is pretty close to the price of a 200 foot deep well,,,

 

[Tigershark]

I haven't found anyone around our parts that do wells and didn't think that it would supply enough water for a house. My backup for the garden and trees is just to pump from the pond it's just a major pain in the butt

 

[CADplans]

got some quotes for hoe ramming 1800$ per 100 ft good grief project might have come to an abrupt end unless I can get cheaper quotes

I just installed a french drain behind my daughters house,,
we dug a trench 3 feet wide, 8 feet deep, pulling up rocks as big as a Silverado's hood,,,
That trench started at 3 feet deep, and the 580 Case that was digging it had no issue taking those rocks out.

The 150 feet of trench that was 8 feet deep for over half of the length,, cost $750.

That 580 Case sized backhoe might surprise you,,,, my guy was digging with a 3 foot wide bucket!!

 

[/pine]

I have pretty much followed the thread but I don't recall if you if you ever mentioned the original source of the water you are wanting to move...if it is a gravity powered surface water source...and you can deal with overflow...you can always just let the water run hard enough to prevent freezing and not worry about the depth of the line...sorry if I missed something pertinent...?

Another option is setting it up to be drained where it is not below the frost line...