1000 ft water line

[Billrog]

Where it's shallow you can sleeve the pipe in a slightly larger pipe and it will prevent it from freezing , in any traffic area even foot or animal same thing with 1" x 12" wide SM Styrofoam and it won't freeze.

 

[CADplans]

Where it's shallow you can sleeve the pipe in a slightly larger pipe and it will prevent it from freezing , in any traffic area even foot or animal same thing with 1" x 12" wide SM Styrofoam and it won't freeze.

They did that on an episode of "This Old House",,

That shallow water line was in New England,,,

 

[Tigershark]

Coming from city water line. Neighbor 50 ft away had his excavator spend several days digging out his water line and electric with a medium sized excavator with hoe ram, he has rocks the size of small cars in his yard. I think it took weeks to dig his basement, It's the same rock shelf, a full sized dozer couldn't break them when the entrance was built. I just need lots of dynamite

 

[Tigershark]

One problem is our farmer farms over this area so I need to get it down some because I have 18 wheelers coming in along with big tractors and combines so I think even if I sleeved it there is no way it could withstand the weight of machinery driving over it on such a shallow rock bed, I guess I could take that part out of crop land

 

[ch47dpilot]

Where I live frost line isn't an issue. How deep should I put water line. I'm thinking 2+ft. Not sure how much dirt needs to be above it to ensure vehicle traffic doesn't crush pipe. Also nobody really answered my original question on how deep a trace line can be before it won't be able to be picked up. My trencher goes 4ft deep so I'd like to go as deep as possible and still find trace line. Any other problems anyone sees with going too deep?

 

[Peter 315]

They run the trace line( copper wire) up to ground level so they can hook on to it to trace it , or foil trace tape 2 feet above DETECTABLE TAPE - 2", 3", 4", 6", and 12"

 

[Tigershark]

For those that run HDPE, what are you using to connect it ? The company recommend the heat fusion but no one around here does that or rents any equipment, I was thinking of brass connectors just wasn't sure. Spoke to a master plumber and excavator and he recommended PVC with rubber gaskets without glue. Just looking for advice. I just got done filling in the one trench I dug and decided to keep it closer to the driveway so I wasn't cutting across all the farm land and seems to be less rock

 

[justinramani]

For those that run HDPE, what are you using to connect it ? The company recommend the heat fusion but no one around here does that or rents any equipment, I was thinking of brass connectors just wasn't sure. Spoke to a master plumber and excavator and he recommended PVC with rubber gaskets without glue. Just looking for advice. I just got done filling in the one trench I dug and decided to keep it closer to the driveway so I wasn't cutting across all the farm land and seems to be less rock

Our builder had to replace a 1300' water line that was originally installed due to multiple leaks. I wanted HDPE roll pipe, but it just wasn't very popular in our area. Since the builder was footing the repair bill he decided to replace with 2" gasketed pvc. That was about six months ago and no issues yet.....

 

[Bikeman111]

I work in a public works dept doing a lot of this type of work.In this situation it would be faster, easier,to use 2" copper in large rolls,or even 2" black plastic rolls.This way you can dig a long trench,unroll it quickly,throw some sand on it,and under for a nice bed.Then once all pipe is layed finish back filling.This goes quick.Try to keep your pipe run in an area that doesn't run under a road,driveway etc as traveling on top of pipe will drive the frost a lot deeper than normal.Also when making connections at either end put a bit of a goose neck in the pipe. If the ground does move it will allow the pipe to move by straightening out some instead of pulling joints apart.Just my 2 cents from 25 years of pipe laying.

 

[Streetcar]

Charts from your county show frost depth at 18" to 24". If you use a lot of water, it may never freeze, but 8" is scary shallow. Around here we bury nearly four feet.

For older houses in Cincinnati, 24 depth is common