1964 Ford 2000, what do you think

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The tractor looks like it is in great shape. If the hour meter is correct then I feel it would be a great buy for $5500 (you most likely will dicker him down some anyway). That size tractor with a 3pt and power steering are in high demand now. The 2000's and Massey Ferguson 135's are both raising in price. And when people price a new compact they usually run for these older tractors in good condition.

Best of luck. I wish that tractor was closer as it would be a great raking tractor to replace the Ford 640 and not hurt the wallet too much.
 
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flusher said:
I like these old Ford gassers, but not for $5500. It's way overpriced. It looks pretty average. I'd say $4000 tops.

The paint is faded which is the only real knock I can see against this tractor. The tractor shows 1347 hours which is real low for this tractor assuming the hourmeter still works. The tractor doesn't show signs of abuse or damage and except for the faded paint it looks great for a 40+ year old tractor. I would almost believe this tractor lived its entire life hooked to a rotary cutter maintaining a small field.

I know prices vary by area but around here my Ford 640 is worth $3500 and it is rough, has higher hours and lacks power steering. A fresh coat of paint on that tractor is all it would really take to make it ready for a show. Even the engine bay doesn't have any oil or heavy dirt and grease all over it.
 
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I think that tractor is overpriced also, especially in this area. It's a clean old tractor, but the operative word is "old." You do know that $5500 is about 2-1/2 times as much as that tractor sold for originally don't you? I just think you can find a much newer diesel tractor for that amount of money.
 
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jinman said:
I think that tractor is overpriced also, especially in this area. It's a clean old tractor, but the operative word is "old." You do know that $5500 is about 2-1/2 times as much as that tractor sold for originally don't you? I just think you can find a much newer diesel tractor for that amount of money.

You should be able to get live PTO and Power Steering for $5500 this one has neither.
Additionally, there were very, very few 3 cylinder 2000's actually built in 1964. Without a unit code on this tractor, it's anyones guess how old it actually is. The pictured combination of late style grille shell and canister style engine oil filter was only used from 4/1/68 through 10/31/69; assuming the engine and grille shell are original to the tractor. If it is actually a bona fide 68/69 production 2000 it kinda makes one wonder why a New Holland dealer (the seller) can't identify it as such. I suppose they weren't a Ford dealer back in the day...............
 
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RickB,

Thanks for the information. that is what I need to know. I had an old 8N and got rid of it for just that reason, no PS or live PTO. Thanks again.
 
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I agree with rick.. the number's stamped on the bellhousing will ID this tractor.. down to the production shift of the day built.

While it looks like a solid machine.. I feel it is overpriced. I't 'stepped up' brother, the 3000 goes in the 3500-5500 price range.. and 5500$ is the range where you see 4000's and 5000's I paid just a bit more than the asking price onthis machine for my 1975 5000.

I think that's be a great machine in the 3500-4000$ range.

I paid 3400$ for a ford 660 ( with loader ).. 10ys older.. but live pto. .. same hp range... and 3500$ for a ford 850.. no live pto.. but about 10 more pto hp.. etc

Soundguy
 
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There is a Ford 2000 gasser listed in last June's heavy equipment trader. Asking $3500. Don't know the year and no attachments.

mark
 
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I think that thing is a '69. It appears to be the twin of mine; thought it was mine when I first looked.

It also appears to have the single-stick 4-speed transmission...that's all they offered on the 2000 gasser at the end of the '60s. If it does, you're not going to like the way it's geared. First gear is way too fast. At PTO RPM (1500 engine RPM) in 1st gear it'll be covering the ground at about 3 MPH. That's faster than my L4300 in 3rd gear at PTO RPM. Makes the tractor less than useful when the going gets heavy with a PTO driven implement. If that picture of the hour meter had included a little more of that RPM/groundspeed placard, you could verify this. It is far and away my biggest single gripe with this tractor.

Also, they didn't have power steering....mine certainly doesn't and it could use it. Think it is available as an aftermarket option, however. PTO is transmission type...not live or independent.

The little 158 c.i. 3 banger is a strong, easy running, economical engine. The original Holley updraft carburetor is a little weird and the float valve seat isn't replaceable. Also the Holley is no longer available, so if the float valve starts giving trouble you have to go to a Zenith. You can find them on the web for around $250. I had to go that way and had problems with the Zenith, but they weren't all the carburetor's fault.

$5500 is way too much. $3800 to $4000 as it stands. It doesn't really look like a 1300 hour tractor to me....tire wear is similar to mine with 2300 hours.
FWIW
Bob

P.S. Robert_in_NY: If you want something to rake with, we might want to talk. Planning to put new rear tires and rims on mine and maybe sell it this summer. They do make good raking tractors if your windrows aren't super heavy. Won't be asking any $5500 either.
 
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We have had used a Ford 2000 on our farm for 40+ years. It has over 8000hours on it. It is a perfect tractor for raking. By far the most dependable piece of equipment we have on the farm.
 
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Bob_Young said:
I think that thing is a '69. It appears to be the twin of mine; thought it was mine when I first looked.

It also appears to have the single-stick 4-speed transmission...that's all they offered on the 2000 gasser at the end of the '60s. If it does, you're not going to like the way it's geared. First gear is way too fast. At PTO RPM (1500 engine RPM) in 1st gear it'll be covering the ground at about 3 MPH. That's faster than my L4300 in 3rd gear at PTO RPM. Makes the tractor less than useful when the going gets heavy with a PTO driven implement. If that picture of the hour meter had included a little more of that RPM/groundspeed placard, you could verify this. It is far and away my biggest single gripe with this tractor.

Also, they didn't have power steering....mine certainly doesn't and it could use it. Think it is available as an aftermarket option, however. PTO is transmission type...not live or independent.

The little 158 c.i. 3 banger is a strong, easy running, economical engine. The original Holley updraft carburetor is a little weird and the float valve seat isn't replaceable. Also the Holley is no longer available, so if the float valve starts giving trouble you have to go to a Zenith. You can find them on the web for around $250. I had to go that way and had problems with the Zenith, but they weren't all the carburetor's fault.

$5500 is way too much. $3800 to $4000 as it stands. It doesn't really look like a 1300 hour tractor to me....tire wear is similar to mine with 2300 hours.
FWIW
Bob

P.S. Robert_in_NY: If you want something to rake with, we might want to talk. Planning to put new rear tires and rims on mine and maybe sell it this summer. They do make good raking tractors if your windrows aren't super heavy. Won't be asking any $5500 either.
For what it is worth, 3 cylinder 2000's had a minimum of 4 transmission/PTO options including one with live PTO. And power steering was a factory option.
 
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Bob_Young said:
P.S. Robert_in_NY: If you want something to rake with, we might want to talk. Planning to put new rear tires and rims on mine and maybe sell it this summer. They do make good raking tractors if your windrows aren't super heavy. Won't be asking any $5500 either.

I thank you for the offer but which ever tractor I get needs to have power steering. My fields are irregular and require the raking operator to stay on top of things or things get messed up. My main helper gets tired running my Ford 640 and has requested a newer tractor if I can find a decent unit.
 
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Send the 640 to florida for a vacation if ya repalce it!

soundguy
 
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You know I have thought about that Chris. I would love to keep it but if the right offer comes along then so be it. I was offered $3k for the 640 if I traded it in but I will no longer deal with that dealership so who knows what is in store for the 640. It is a handy little tractor and you can never have too many handy tractors;)

I just need a more refined tractor to keep my helpers happy.
 
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Ah.. then you need a 661 or 861.. one with option power steering, the 5spd trans, and live pto!!

soundguy
 
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More or less. It is just a raking/tedding tractor so it doesn't need to be complicated. I would like a diesel so I can stop bringing gas cans to the field and since there is no hurry right now I can keep looking for something to pop up. I do use the 1920 from time to time but that tractor rides very rough and has that stupid curtis cab on it which limits the air flow thru the operators station.
 
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Deffinately an 861-D then!!

soundguy
 
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I saw 2 Ford 2000's on Ebay. They might be worth looking into if anyone is close by to where their being sold. Here are the auction #s.
160212151165
160212449687
 
 
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