1970's International Harvester 1700 truck questions

[juddspaintballs]

Well, I tried to start it. I put two-stroke gas directly in the carburetor and had a good battery hooked up and also my car's battery tied to it with jumper cables and the car running. It turned over slowly and eventually fired. When it ran, it was running like it was WOT and I'd shut it down right quick. It did this a few times and eventually I couldn't get it to turn over or make a noise or anything. So, maybe I fried the starter now? Or a fuse somewhere?

 

[pmsmechanic]

Make sure all the hoses and everything is hooked up properly for the governor off of the distributor. If I remember correctly the spring inside the carburetor pulls the throttle wide open and the governor pulls it back to an idle.

 

[QRTRHRS]

This thread brings back memories for me! I had an IH dump about the same vintage. Mine had the 345 with a 2 speed rear. It was an old municiple truck. The door plate rated it at 26000 and it had air brakes but no air parking brakes. The original tailgate was long gone but the person that I bought it from had rounded up another that I had to have a welder friend fab up new brackets to pin the gate on. It had no power steering which made it a bear to turn, especially, when the ten foot plow was on.

I had it maybe two years, using it around my farm at the time to move dirt to "improve" the property. I also had to rebuild the carb on mine. We never had that much snow during the two years that I had it. I think I only plowed my 1500 foot driveway twice with it.

Pretty easy to work on except for the limited engine access and the fender being a bit awkwardly high off of the ground.

I sold it to one of the local school districts to clean their lots. LOL, the maintenance man was pretty much deaf. He blew it up in the parking lot. The governor never worked! He likely got so frustrated trying to steer it that he up and hammered on it!

This was not my first "binder". I had a new 72' 3/4 4x4 with the 304 and a 75 1/2 ton with the 345. Oh' yeah, I also had a Scout with the 345. It had some kind of crummy emission system that never seemed to work correctly. Got eight mpg during the first gas crisis! Good thing my buddy had a gas station.

I also worked construction with a couple of mid fifties R190's and another later year dump with the 549 in it.

 

[crazyal]

That's not a 404. Does it have a 4 barrel carb? If so it's most likely a 392. The red steel hose in front of the valve cover on the driver's side is a dead giveaway. It's a coolant line that goes to the head. The MV engines don't have that. I would rather have an SV engine over the MV. Lots of parts for the 345 and 392 engines. Back in the day every school bus had one and you would hear the engine screaming away long before you could see the bus. Of course screaming for an international engine was anything over 3000 rpm. I've got a couple of 1700 4x4s sitting on my property.

 

[mojoinco]

A lot of Binder Boys on here. Not sure, but it looked in the pictures like that was a single circuit master cylinder. Seems odd. Like maybe it runs to a hydrovac elsewhere (iirc, they were often mounted on the frame behind the cab). Might want to confirm brake fluid level there too.

Had a thermoquad that lost the vacuum line once. Full throttle right now. You may be able to bypass the governor (if there is another problem). Look. For a vacc pull off (dash pot) on the carburettor. This is just a 4 bbl Holly, so shouldn't be any magic to it. The 'list number' is how you I'd that particular variation.
A
A late 60s 1600 was my introduction to driving anything larger than a pickup. It was a 304, 4spd, 2 speed rear like yours. Fun. For a lug of a truck. It was replaced with a late 70s tilt front with automatic (345 or 392). Otherwise, it was pretty much the same truck to drive.

 

[Hay Dude]

Back when I had my 1600 4x4, I longed for a diesel under the hood(s). Never was a gas engine guy...
I think I read somewhere there was a diesel offered? It was a 6v-53 I think
I think they were rare as hens teeth.

On Edit: I kicked myself a few times and wondered: "why didnt I just keep that truck and drop a 6V-53 in it"????

 

[lt190b]

This is the best pic I could find of the tilt front cab. It's the last of the international trucks and parts of my dads. If any one has interest or questions post response or PM me. Not trying to derail the question thread.

 

[Win3855]

If your pouring gas down carb to start it, you may want a fire extinguisher handy. Starter may have rusted and melted down.Chain and pull it.

 

[crazyal]

A lot of Binder Boys on here. Not sure, but it looked in the pictures like that was a single circuit master cylinder. Seems odd. Like maybe it runs to a hydrovac elsewhere (iirc, they were often mounted on the frame behind the cab). Might want to confirm brake fluid level there too.

Had a thermoquad that lost the vacuum line once. Full throttle right now. You may be able to bypass the governor (if there is another problem). Look. For a vacc pull off (dash pot) on the carburettor. This is just a 4 bbl Holly, so shouldn't be any magic to it. The 'list number' is how you I'd that particular variation.
A
A late 60s 1600 was my introduction to driving anything larger than a pickup. It was a 304, 4spd, 2 speed rear like yours. Fun. For a lug of a truck. It was replaced with a late 70s tilt front with automatic (345 or 392). Otherwise, it was pretty much the same truck to drive.

The firetruck loadstar I have has the hydrovac brake system. The town I bought it from had to buy a special tool to bleed the brakes. It worked well enough to drive the truck home but if I was going to actually use the truck I would have gone through they system.

Most people don't even mess with these trucks. Just trying to find someone willing to mess with a split rim wheel can be a challenge. Mine is a yard plow truck. I do have lots of spare parts including a set of axles and a divorced transfer case for a 4x4 1700.

 

[juddspaintballs]

I'm considering letting this one go. At this point I definitely need to buy a battery for it. The carburetor isn't working right. It probably needs a starter. I need to go through the brake system before I move it, assuming I can actually get it started and running correctly. None of that would be a big deal if it were at my house. But, it's 45 minutes from home in a very remote area with no cell signal (to look stuff up online), no stores around, and no real help to speak of. Getting it towed would cost quite a lot. Towing it with a pickup truck would be sketchy and a very slow process. The 45 minute drive is at 65 mph the majority of the trip and I'm not towing a big truck like that by chain that far (about 40 miles). Whenever I go there, I have to take all of my tools with me and hope I didn't forget something I need. I'm beginning to wonder if the headache is worth the reward.