2008 F250 4x4 Diesel or V10?

[Z-Michigan]

There is no comparison when you look at the GM 6.0 and the Ford V10. The Ford will tow up to 16,300# with a 4x4 extended cab V10 SRW. The GM will only do 12,600# in best configuration, 2 wheel drive, dually. There is no comparison when it comes to gas towing, the Ford V10 wins hands down and will hang with most others diesel offerings.

No argument with those points... I wasn't claiming that the GM 6.0 was equal to Ford's V10, rather just saying I personally would choose the GM option for 3/4-ton pickup type work, which towing 10k a few times a year is, in my view. The 6-speed auto is a big plus and I'll bet that mpg empty or light will be a little bit better. I also just happen to like GM better, which is not a factual assertion but a personal preference.

If I was towing 10k all the time, or 15k ever, I would get a 1-ton dually without a second thought, and with a diesel for the former.

 

[JiminGa]

I don't follo that logic...dropping the v10 for a new 6.2 pushrod...that's not getting rid of a engine it's changing one, and going backwards in technology at the same time. There are many many happy v10 owners that would never go back to a v8, I think that would be an epic mistake on Ford's part in the Edsel neighborhood.

 

[Diesel-ME]

Just wanted to add that unless Ford has changed their policy , the diesels have a 100,000 engine warranty. Plus, and perhaps more importantly, if you plan it to be a long-time keeper one can often expect to get 300,000 miles or more on a diesel engine without having to make major repairs. You may save a few $$ in tune-up costs too.

When I bought my PSD in 2002 diesel was the same price as regular gas. So the math was different. But diesel pricing does spike in the winter as it is so closely related to #2 fuel oil (please guys - no fuel debates here... save that for the Oils, Fuels & Lubricants forum)

I was also looking for an F240 4x4 and ended up with a 350. The price difference was negligible. The ride (on the 2002 models) was just a bit stiffer on the 1-ton. But I buy pickups to work. If you want a car-like ride buy a GM

~paul

 

[dgl24087]

The only 6.2L I've heard about from Ford is the "Hurricane", it's an OHC based off the 5.4. With Ford's financial state, I can't see the logic in tooling up a pushrod engine. Edit: Quick Google search indicates the name has been changed from Hurricane to Boss, but it is still an OHC engine.

 

[Builder]

The only 6.2L I've heard about from Ford is the "Hurricane", it's an OHC based off the 5.4. With Ford's financial state, I can't see the logic in tooling up a pushrod engine.

Neither can I, but I have read this more than once.

I think the V-10 goes the way the the GM 8.1L goes.

IMO, Gm axed their big block gas earlier than Ford because GM had a more successful launch than Ford with their diesel and Ford needed to keep a hefty gas engine around for the Ford faithful who are leary of the Ford diesel.

 

[john_bud]

Let's see all diesels are now using high pressure common rail injection and the injectors are 250-400 each. They also have particulate filters that cost $1500 and need to be replaced after 100k miles. Diesel is on average 40 cent a gallon more. The V10 gets 14 on the freeway empty, the new ford 6.4 diesel is getting 12-16 on the freeway empty. Lot's are complaining in the 12-14 empty range. Read the ford boards for details. The new diesels and the V10 will probably both last 250,000 miles without needing an overhaul. The overhaul cost of the diesel will be 3x that of the V10.

If you are a ford man, the V10 is a better deal. If you want a truck with 16.5 mpg on the freeway, the GM 6.0 with 6 speed is reputed to get that in the real world. The GM duramax is also reputed to get 18 even with the particulate filters. But, the 6.0 gas with 6 speed auto is a better deal and is cheaper to run empty than the diesel.

My opinion is that if you don't run heavy all the time, there is no compelling reason to go diesel. Unless you like it. Then go for it!


jb

 

[powerstroke444e]

I am a diesel guy, buy you have to like the gas truck in the winter. If you are going to keep the truck go for the gas if you will be trading every 50-100k go diesel, because around here the used diesels with 100K bring close to $30,000 but the same gas truck will go off the lot under $20,000. Just the good old facts of life.
Just a thought how did my old 1987 F350 w460 get 12mpg and a new v10 still get about the same MPG?

 

[Diesel-ME]

Just a thought how did my old 1987 F350 w460 get 12mpg and a new v10 still get about the same MPG?

American inginuity at work.

nough said

 

[unreconstructed]

I started a thread three weeks ago or so about the V-10 mileage--quite a few posts should you care to search for it and check it out. Also had an update to that about the mileage. I think that thread would give you some more insight.

I ordered my V-10 as I wanted a stick so if you have some patience you can get exactly what you want. The motor cost me 358 bucks over the 5.4

I use mine 1 or 2 times a month for towing and still don't think I could justify the diesel. I know there are the diesel only guys out there, but its just a matter of what you want. I really do like my V-10. It does what I want it to do.

I agree with the poster concerning the 350 over the 250. I got the 350 this time and am very happy with it. Was not that much more.

I am no techie so don't have any clue about Ford dropping the V-10. Will be
a real disservice to their customers, but I know that is not an issue with these big companies.

As you will see from the threads I mentioned above, you can expect up to
14.5 on the highway with no load. 10 and under with a load.


Good hunting.

 

[Diamondpilot]

You can't be serious. A V-10 won't hang with other diesel offerings. Compare the torque and what torque is available at lower RPM and please rethink that statement. There's no way a V-10 engine making ~450 ftlbs at higher RPM can pull a trailer like a diesel engine making ~650 ft lbs at lower RPMs. No way. Basic physics. And when it comes to fuel economy, the heavier the trailer gets, the more the diesel shines in fuel economy.

You are 100% correct. I should have stated it better. What I meant was the tow rating was in line with the diesels tow ratings. It in now way keep up with a diesel with any load in tow when it come to acceleration off the line or chugging up a steep grade. I simply meant the tow rating. Sorry about the confusion.

Chris