2012 MX5100

[kenmac]

Looking at getting a little bigger tractor.
With DPF and other emissions, I don't want new.
Looking at a used MX5100, any pros/cons to this model ?
I haven't gone to look at it yet. Dealer is asking 22,900.
Not dead set on this tractor. Just looking around at what's out there right now.

 

[motownbrowne]

That's within the price range I'd expect at a dealership, depending on the options and condition it's in. They're great tractors with lots of satisfied owners on TBN. I'm very pleased with my MX. For that price it'd be nice if it had under 1000 hours, a loader, HST, and was in good shape, but I guess you don't always get what you want.

 

[whirly]

My MX5100HST is just what the doctor ordered. Now the wife wants to do my smaller chores

All kidding aside, it is an excellent tractor. Not as fancy as the Grand L's but it has a sturdy frame and plenty of power to do all I need and more on my 10 acres.

 

[kenmac]

his web site states 170 hrs, geared transmission. Which would be fine if it has a lever that lets you go from forward to reverse without having to move the gear shift. I need to call and ask about this

 

[motownbrowne]

his web site states 170 hrs, geared transmission. Which would be fine if it has a lever that lets you go from forward to reverse without having to move the gear shift. I need to call and ask about this

That's pretty high for a gear model, in my opinion. Low hoes is nice though. IIRC, the geared MXs have two ranges of 4 gears each. You can shuttle between F and R, but maybe only in low range or something like that. Also, the only synchros are between 3rd and 4th gear in the 4 speed portion, and you always need the clutch to shuttle, unlike a hydraulic shuttle transmission.

 

[LD1]

Too much money for a gear unit IMO unless it comes with some attachments or a backhoe.

Got my 2012 MX5100 beginning of last summer. Apr 2016ish....so prices should still be similar.

No remotes, no front hydraulics at all. (added later though). Just bare HST tractor and loader with R1's and 340hrs on the clock.

$20k OTD.....so the selling price was closer to $18.5K

Since the one you are looking has a a few less hours....but gear.....if it comes with nothing else I think its about $5k too high.

If you do alot of loader work the HST sure is nice. In you are mainly towing a plow/trailer or field work I can see not really getting much benefit. But bushhogging (which is about 70% of what I do), HST is the only way. Going from a geared tractor to a HST is like going from a garden tractor to a zero-turn for mowing

 

[kenmac]

Well, if I go HST. I'll have to get a larger tractor to get the same HP . I hear the HST takes some of the HP. away
Most of my use will probably be loader/grapple work. I'll use the old yanmar for brush cutting.

 

[Code54]

We have a 5100 hst and love it. I use it a LOT for loader/grapple work and have never wished for more HP. Cant say I have run out of HP doing anything loader related, sometimes I could use more for running in Med or High up steep hills but otherwise no complaints. Been a great machine!

 

[LD1]

Lack of HP is really only an issue if running something that requires alot of PTO power, or towing something heavy in high range.

I wish for more power when towing a dump trailer loaded with ~5000# of wood.....total weight of 8000-9000#. No issues towing at all,but you sure notice the slight grades if in High range.

General loader and dirt work and piddling around in low and med range.....no issues at all with a lack of power with the HST

 

[kenmac]

what is the difference in the M vs MX vs L models ?

The dealer list a MX 5100 that is 52 HP.... L 5240 Grand L series, M5040 52 HP ..M5040 52 HP

The 2013--- L5240 he list is 52 HP, HST, 380 HRS, R4 tires (which I really don't want)...23,900
not sure if this 2013 has DPF or not, if it does it's out

The (mod ?) M5040 list 52 HP, dual rear remotes,mechanical shuttle shift,691 HRS, R 4 tires,.... 23,900

The 2012 MX5100 list 52 HP 170 HRS, gear tranny, AG tires (which I want)...... 22,900

All are 4WD with loader

 

[whirly]

Well, if I go HST. I'll have to get a larger tractor to get the same HP . I hear the HST takes some of the HP. away
Most of my use will probably be loader/grapple work. I'll use the old yanmar for brush cutting.

You will lose 1.5HP at the PTO with the HST so you might lose that much at the rear wheels. However, I've never noticed I needed more HP out of my HST - just more ballast on the back end at times. BTW, my MX5100HST was bought in January '17 no canopy but with a loader; 3 rear remotes; a 3rd function and 195Hrs for $23.5K out the door.

 

[motownbrowne]

Well, if I go HST. I'll have to get a larger tractor to get the same HP . I hear the HST takes some of the HP. away
Most of my use will probably be loader/grapple work. I'll use the old yanmar for brush cutting.

You'll only have to go bigger if you need more HP. For loader work, you'd never be lacking HP with the HST. Also, for bush hogging, I strongly believe (and I think LD1 will back me up on this) that the ability to instantly adjust your ground speed to match the field conditions more than makes up for the efficiency you give up to the HST. If you want to run a stump grinder or wood chipper, you might want all you can get, but anything that includes an element of ground speed, like mowing, tilling, snow blowing, etc, I'd take hst over a few HP every time.

 

[kenmac]

You will lose 1.5HP at the PTO with the HST so you might lose that much at the rear wheels. However, I've never noticed I needed more HP out of my HST - just more ballast on the back end at times. BTW, my MX5100HST was bought in January '17 no canopy but with a loader; 3 rear remotes; a 3rd function and 195Hrs for $23.5K out the door.

sounds like you got a he11 of a deal with the 3rd function included.
On a side note, I'm about to have knee surgery Friday. HST might not be a bad thing ! LOL

 

[whirly]

sounds like you got a he11 of a deal with the 3rd function included.
On a side note, I'm about to have knee surgery Friday. HST might not be a bad thing ! LOL

The deal was .... it had a dent on the hood from the previous owner dropping a bucket load of logs when he lifted it too high. Dealer kept lowering the price but still couldn't sell a dented hood.



I'm not fussy about those kinds of things so I made him a deal. It already had the 3rd function so I told him, if he added the 3 remotes for half price (the cost of the parts); include the service & owner's manuals and do the 200 hr maintenance, I'd take it. The other factor was I paid cash - it does make a difference.

On the side note: I was in a rear end auto accident (the receiving end) back in 2007. The old Fordson in my avatar has a clutch and a minimum ground speed of 1.8mph in 1st gear @ PTO engine speed. Constantly having to start and stop while mowing became a real and literal pain in the neck. When the clutch went out an upgrade to HST was in order.

 

[kenmac]

the dent wouldn't bother me at all. I'm not looking for new. I expect some dents and dings.
I pay cash every for everything I buy

 

[LD1]

Re: l5240 vs mx5100 vs m5040.

The L and MX are the same basic chassis. And same basic tractor. The L is just a deluxe model with more bells and whistles.

The M is a larger chassis, larger tires, heavier, larger loader.

Of the three, I think the GL is the best deal.

Regarding tires, since the L and MX share the same chassis, they have the same internal gearing and same sized tire options. See if your dealer will make a swap with the MX.

 

[kenmac]

well, that's easy. the M being the heavier tractor with larger loader is what I would want.
I don't think he has a GL model right now. He is a used tractor dealer that deals mostly in Kubota tractors.
I'll have to ask him if he ever gets a GL model in

 

[motownbrowne]

well, that's easy. the M being the heavier tractor with larger loader is what I would want.
I don't think he has a GL model right now. He is a used tractor dealer that deals mostly in Kubota tractors.
I'll have to ask him if he ever gets a GL model in

The L5240 is a GL or Grand Luxury Kubota model. It's got all the bells and whistles. That's what looked like the best deal to me too. Swapping tires should be in his favor since most people want R4s.

 

[LD1]

The L5240 is a GL or Grand Luxury Kubota model. It's got all the bells and whistles. That's what looked like the best deal to me too. Swapping tires should be in his favor since most people want R4s.

And since R4's typically cost more

 

[kenmac]

The L5240 is a GL or Grand Luxury Kubota model. It's got all the bells and whistles. That's what looked like the best deal to me too. Swapping tires should be in his favor since most people want R4s.

If the M series has the better loader (more lift capacity) that is what I would want. Not a light tractor with a weaker loader

I missed adding info for this other tractor I listed..
2013 MX5100 HST 380 HRS
FOR 23,900

It has HST, but doesn't have rear remotes. if You are saying that the M series would is heavier and has a better loader than the GL. Then it seems, the M series is what would work best for loader/ grapple work and plow/disc work