2013 dodge 3500 HD trailer towing uprated to 30,000lbs

[Harold_J]

Let me ask something, if it is so easy to circumvent the 26,001lb rule by saying a 26k truck and a 10k trailer is not under CDL....why is it ,that not every hotshot related company in the US has not changed their fleet to match this? If they did not have to jack with DOT, I guarantee they would be all over this "in theary" rule. I am with Case on this one. Now lets get into the 10k trailer part...how do you do that? There are no 5k axles sold.

You're first question is simple, no hot shotter could earn enough to stay in business running 10K trailers; they can't even make a living running under CDL weight. Actually, most barely make a living running legitimate 30+ foot trailers. You'd have to be hauling a pretty valuable load at high rates to run a 10K trailer. That's why guys just starting out are often advised to start with a 26K straight truck, at least they won't even need a CDL.

None of this is "in theary" as you call it, the other poster showed it to you in black and white from the FMCSA. Did you "think" about it? Why would govt regulators even mention 10K trailers in the federal and state law if it didn't mean anything? They put it there for a reason, so that drivers pulling light trailers behind a big truck wouldn't need a Class-A.

As far as 10K trailers there are plenty being sold by all the manufacturers, big and small. Here's a Big Tex, for example: http://bigtextrailers.com/pdf/10eq.pdf
There are many others.

 

[Harold_J]

I am a big fan of derating...I am actually a fan of uprating my stuff. Now comes the sweet part for this 26k and 10k combo. The ratings are per the manufacturer or whats on the registration...read the DOT specs on this. So, unless you can bribe the MFG to rate the 5200 lbs at 5k each...HMMM.....Yea , yea I know.
Now tell me for real how the **** DOT will look at a 1 ton 13750 GVR pulling a 14 GVR trailer. gross of 27750...right? Thats CDL territory.,,,
Now lets go get a F-650-rated at 26k for CDL reasons and lets its hook it upto a 10 k trailer....and no CDL required.............yep perfectly legal in every
state in the lower 48. Nope your are wrong. Read the regulations boys, you can not derate the the equipment anymore.

You and I can't derate the equipment, but the manufacturer can. Just because you have two 6K axles doesn't mean everythig else on the trailer is up to 12K total weight. And when the manufacturer slaps a tag on the trailer frame saying GVW is 10K, or on an F-650 door jamb saying 26K, you better not exceed either one or you're looking for trouble. Why do you think Ford will sell you a 350 rated at 10K or a 650 rated 25,999 GVW if that's what you want? They know what's going on with DOT numbers, log books, insurance, CDL regs, etc.

 

[Rock knocker]

And Case still will not answer this question

Please explain this:Interpretation for 383.5: - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and explain answer number 6. I don't think things could be more clear. People like you are very dangerous, because you have repeatedly shown the incapability to read flow charts and understand laws, yet you claim to be some kind of expert because you drive a glorified pick up in the oil patch.

 

[Diamondpilot]

And Case still will not answer this question

Because he knows less than he thinks.

Trucks and trailers are de rated all the time.

Chris

 

[WilliamBos]

Because he knows less than he thinks.

Trucks and trailers are de rated all the time.

Chris

GM did it with the Top kick, Navistar did it with their truck, could be driven with a 'G' licence up here.

 

[Rock knocker]

You and I can't derate the equipment, but the manufacturer can. Just because you have two 6K axles doesn't mean everythig else on the trailer is up to 12K total weight. And when the manufacturer slaps a tag on the trailer frame saying GVW is 10K, or on an F-650 door jamb saying 26K, you better not exceed either one or you're looking for trouble. Why do you think Ford will sell you a 350 rated at 10K or a 650 rated 25,999 GVW if that's what you want? They know what's going on with DOT numbers, log books, insurance, CDL regs, etc.

You could put three 6,000# axles on a trailer with a 10,000# coupler, and your rating would be 10,000#

 

[Diamondpilot]

You could put three 6,000# axles on a trailer with a 10,000# coupler, and your rating would be 10,000#

Cottect. Its limited to the weakest link.

Chris

 

[Duffster]

Read the regulations boys, you can not derate the the equipment anymore.

Your so full of crap there are flys buzzing your head.

 

[Rock knocker]

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