2021 Western Drought

[plowhog]

Man o man.
I think we can get to the point where everything causes some kind of drain on natural resources. Stop being so scared, try to enjoy your life. Turn off the “news” and take a relaxing walk or do some outdoor work or take a pill if your doctor prescribed them to you to take the edge off.

It's not the news that burnt my parents property, nor the separate fire that threatened my CA property recently. Nor did the news cause this to be the first year since 1977 we have not irrigated our pasture in CA due to no water. And why our 1 acre pond is half depleted where I'm now wondering if our bass will survive. Or why the always-reliable irrigation ditch water in NV is turning off next week.... first time in decades.

Naaahhh ... I just watch the news too much!

Did I mention the smoke filled skies for the last 2 months, with ash raining down on everything?

In blistering drought, California farmers rip up precious almond trees

Crushed by a devastating drought and new water restrictions, Daniel Hartwig had no choice but to pull thousands of precious, fragrant almond trees from his California farm.

phys.org

 

[ponytug]

Around here, the few golf courses still going use recycled water. (That's sewage treatment effluent filtered and treated a some more, and then run through RO filters.) The remaining recycled water is used to refill the ground water via percolation ponds for agricultural uses. Lots of research going on to figure out how best to filter and treat the water cheaply to restore the water to pristine condition.

The closest golf course is now home to angus cattle as too few humans wanted to play.

I have seen some of those desert golf courses firsthand, and the gravel roughs and oil soaked "greens" are certainly low water, and different!

All the best,

Peter

 

[Larry Caldwell]

It’s not ALL or NOTHING Lar.
It’s a reasonable modulation of awareness and not cowering in fear of every bad news event and fear the mainstream media keep blathering on about.
I don’t take any pills. Never have, and hopefully never will. Unless we go to full communism, then I might lol

Do you spend a lot of time cowering in fear? Take a chill pill. Maybe it would ease the emotional strain of current events.

We are starting to classify the willfully ignorant as Umericans. Burying your head in the sand is nonsense, and trying to keep people from discussing current events is even dumber.

 

[Hay Dude]

Do you spend a lot of time cowering in fear? Take a chill pill. Maybe it would ease the emotional strain of current events.

We are starting to classify the willfully ignorant as Umericans. Burying your head in the sand is nonsense, and trying to keep people from discussing current events is even dumber.

Nope. I spend very little time with fear, Larry and your coinciding projection will get you nowhere with me. Lol
If you’re the one banging the end of the world drum with the environmental fear mongering, try to moderate your fear of the end of mankind with something you enjoy. Maybe itll help you.
I mean after all, you’re the one who started the “western drought” thread as the next projected disaster. Man some people are such a 24/7 downer
Maybe talk about something hopeful for once?

 

[Hay Dude]

It's not the news that burnt my parents property, nor the separate fire that threatened my CA property recently. Nor did the news cause this to be the first year since 1977 we have not irrigated our pasture in CA due to no water. And why our 1 acre pond is half depleted where I'm now wondering if our bass will survive. Or why the always-reliable irrigation ditch water in NV is turning off next week.... first time in decades.

Naaahhh ... I just watch the news too much!

Did I mention the smoke filled skies for the last 2 months, with ash raining down on everything?

In blistering drought, California farmers rip up precious almond trees

Crushed by a devastating drought and new water restrictions, Daniel Hartwig had no choice but to pull thousands of precious, fragrant almond trees from his California farm.

phys.org

Well, yeah that’s bad but some folks just sit around watch the news like everything they say is true and hide under the covers.
Its a tractor website and we are talking environmental gloom and doom. There will be rain and the rivers & lakes will refill. Something tells me some folks in charge there in CA may have a little to do with water in short supply, too
Just try to stay positive and get through it.
Right?

 

[ericm979]

And those home gardens also require water, lots of water.

We're semi dry farming our garden tomatoes this year. They get a few hours on drip emitters once a week. The plants are looking kind of peaked but they're producing a good amount of very tasty fruit. We dry farm canning tomatoes in normal years but we got less than half the normal rain fall this last winter and less than normal the year before so they got drip emitters this year.

Here's a good article on the causes of the current drought: What’s causing California’s drought?

 

[Hay Dude]

We're semi dry farming our garden tomatoes this year. They get a few hours on drip emitters once a week. The plants are looking kind of peaked but they're producing a good amount of very tasty fruit. We dry farm canning tomatoes in normal years but we got less than half the normal rain fall this last winter and less than normal the year before so they got drip emitters this year.

Here's a good article on the causes of the current drought: What’s causing California’s drought?

Interesting that Alaska is receiving the “atmospheric rivers” that CA would usually get and has extra rain.
Didn’t know CA had such heavy rainfalls in ‘17.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...

Part of Gulf Stream at risk as Atlantic Ocean currents weaken

Scientists warn of catastrophic consequences if AMOC system, which influences weather worldwide, collapses.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[plowhog]

Just try to stay positive and get through it.

I'm fantastically lucky, and fortunate, by about every measuring stick possible. It wasn't always that way-- so I appreciate it that much more. Events go up and down-- a constant in life.

btw, for those following the CA fires, "Tamarack the Bear" (cub) was spotted recently. He's a 25lb bear cub that was injured in a fire, taken to a rehab facility, and promptly escaped. Sort of the A-Team for a bear, I guess.

Tamarack the escaped bear has likely been found, officials will leave it in the wild

Tamarack the escaped bear has been found and will be left in the wild according to officialsfrom both the California Department of Fish and Wildlife and Lake Tahoe Wildlife Care. Tamarack, named for the fire he was rescued in was found with all four of his paws burned. The Lake Tahoe Wildlife...

mynews4.com

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...

Part of Gulf Stream at risk as Atlantic Ocean currents weaken

Scientists warn of catastrophic consequences if AMOC system, which influences weather worldwide, collapses.

www.aljazeera.com

The Gulf Stream has a lot of inertia. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to stop. Paleo-geologists think the last time it happened it was the result of a huge influx of fresh water from glacial dams in Northern Europe. Greenland is melting, but the water drains off as soon as it melts. We don't really know what will happen, only "if this happens then that happens."

Even a significant slowing in the AMOC could have an effect. If a bunch of heat stays in the south, hurricanes could get wild. Houston just about got drowned because the Gulf was 2 degrees warmer than normal.

 

[Hay Dude]

More gloom and doom…..

 

[Frankenkubota]

Golf courses should be the very FIRST things cut off.

hey.....how about parks and ball fields and those huge soccer complexes? Lawns-in the desert, commercial irrigation systems pumping out water in the rain?

PBS running a show all about water, said 90% is used by ag.

Takes 8 gallons of fresh water to make 1 gallon of coke a cola.

In many places golf courses are required to use grey water that's being wasted anyway.

People are gonna waste water until it becomes too expensive, then it could be too late.

I read a book in the 70s written by an economist in the 30s. He suggested using parallel water lines throughout the entire country. 1 for drinking water and 1 for everything else.

Since i don't live on lake michigan anymore i say.....drain the great lakes!

 

[ultrarunner]

It's not the news that burnt my parents property, nor the separate fire that threatened my CA property recently. Nor did the news cause this to be the first year since 1977 we have not irrigated our pasture in CA due to no water. And why our 1 acre pond is half depleted where I'm now wondering if our bass will survive. Or why the always-reliable irrigation ditch water in NV is turning off next week.... first time in decades.

Naaahhh ... I just watch the news too much!

Did I mention the smoke filled skies for the last 2 months, with ash raining down on everything?

In blistering drought, California farmers rip up precious almond trees

Crushed by a devastating drought and new water restrictions, Daniel Hartwig had no choice but to pull thousands of precious, fragrant almond trees from his California farm.

phys.org

NID water used by many as sole source for private homes... (Nevada Irrigation District in the Sierra)

My Dozer started out as a NID dozer maintaining narrow right of ways.

No wonder the drillers are booked well into next year if your only source of water is no more.

Appreciate the update...

 

[lman]

hey.....how about parks and ball fields and those huge soccer complexes? Lawns-in the desert, commercial irrigation systems pumping out water in the rain?

PBS running a show all about water, said 90% is used by ag.

Takes 8 gallons of fresh water to make 1 gallon of coke a cola.

In many places golf courses are required to use grey water that's being wasted anyway.

People are gonna waste water until it becomes too expensive, then it could be too late.

I read a book in the 70s written by an economist in the 30s. He suggested using parallel water lines throughout the entire country. 1 for drinking water and 1 for everything else.

Since i don't live on lake michigan anymore i say.....drain the great lakes!

Legislators have already enacted laws to limit the possibility of taking our water out of the great lakes.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Legislators have already enacted laws to limit the possibility of taking our water out of the great lakes.

hee hee hee

that's what they told the indians

ever see the colorado river as it crosses into mexico?

 

[deezler]

Since i don't live on lake michigan anymore i say.....drain the great lakes!

Over our dead bodies. People who want to live in the desert get to figure out how to survive without water, not how to steal it from more sensible areas to live.

 

[MoKelly]

Over our dead bodies. People who want to live in the desert get to figure out how to survive without water, not how to steal it from more sensible areas to live.

Just wait. Water will be deemed a human right. Everyone get water equally.

It’s coming.

Water pipelines to the west.

MoKelly

 

[lman]

Over our dead bodies. People who want to live in the desert get to figure out how to survive without water, not how to steal it from more sensible areas to live.

My AR 15 and I are with you.

 

[lman]

Over our dead bodies. People who want to live in the desert get to figure out how to survive without water, not how to steal it from more sensible areas to live.

The latest census showed that western states are growing faster than states that have abundant water. I guess they believe they can go where there is little water and steal it from us. The government will take care of them. Hey, they take my money and give it to people that won't work so I guess they may take our water and give it to people that move someplace where there is little water.

 

[deezler]

All we really have to do here in the water-rich states is fight back and stall everyone long enough until the quality of life in the desert goes to hell, and everyone leaves there anyway. It could mean quite a population boom here in the moist states (gross), but there's no law against wanting to move to another state.