2305 100 Hour service

[dmg]

Just had my 2305 in for the first dealer service, all fluids, oils and filters changed for $ 240.00 , labor included. I felt like this was a decent deal,
how about you guys ? I was expecting closer to $ 400.00 ?

 

[Deadman]

I like doing mine myself, because I learn about the tractor. I guess I did mine for more like $80. Good yours is done though.

 

[ddivinia]

Price seems fine. Not a bad idea to have the dealer do some of the fluids, etc incase you have warranty issues. Oil changes - I am cool with doing myself. Changing the hydraulic fluid usually turns into a huge mess. When my 5525 needs the trans fluid changed - it is going in.

D.

 

[prosperity]

100 hours?
Has this changed with the 2305?

On my 2210, it calls for the first hydraulic fluid/filter change at 50 hours.

 

[JDFANATIC]

100 hours?
Has this changed with the 2305?

On my 2210, it calls for the first hydraulic fluid/filter change at 50 hours.

Mine too. As for the price, here in CT that would be a bargin.

 

[EasyE]

100 hours?
Has this changed with the 2305?

On my 2210, it calls for the first hydraulic fluid/filter change at 50 hours.

My manual for my 2305 calls for "only" the transmission oil and filter @ 50 hours. The first engine oil and filter change is not due until 200 hours. This is all what I am reading in my owners manual. I asked about the engine oil change going so long and was told it is a break in oil and should not be changed until the recommended 200 hour mark.

Regardless, the question was in reference to pricing from the dealer and for all the oils and all the filters I would have to say that you got a great deal from the "stealership".

 

[dmg]

I really hate to admit this, but I haven't read the owners manuel. I am friends with the dealer, and I was going on his recommendations about the 100 hour service.

 

[GordNovo]

My dealer said the same. Don't bother with the 50hr hyd oil change. Replace with std hyd oil at 100 hrs. So that's what I did.

Also when I changed my internal suction screen (with the magnet) there was a fair amount of fine metal particles. Dealer told me this was normal and the volume of these particles will go down considerably on the next hyd oil change.

 

[Deadman]

200 Hrs is INSANE for the engine oil. That poor engine barely holds 2 quarts of oil. That oil will be junk when and if you would ever reach 200 Hrs. My dealer told me to change the oil at 20 hrs, and re-install BREAK IN OIl. I did that so it doesn't burn oil as it ages.

My dealer also has a 2210 and he changes the oil every 20 Hrs and the Oil filter every other change. Its simple to understand why when You see how little oil is in the motor. I change every 25 hrs and every other on the filter.

 

[rvtech]

I understand changing it every 20 hours, but why not change the filter too. You are not getting the full benefit of a change. The filter is holding oil and you are mixing the clean with dirty and diluting your oil change.

I don't go by a set amount of hours. I watch the oil closely and when it's dirty, I change it. I do this with all my vehicles. To me it's like changing an air filter by counting miles and not looking at the condition. An air filter gets dirty from the air that goes through it. It could be dirty in 100 miles or 5,000 miles. It all depends on how much dirt goes through it and not a certain amount of miles. Oil is the same way. The oil gets dirty by a variety of factors including temperature, air quality, how rich the fuel mixture is, time, and others.

Changing the oil at factory recommended intervals is safe, IMHO changing it when it's actually dirty is better.

 

[EasyE]

200 Hrs is INSANE for the engine oil. That poor engine barely holds 2 quarts of oil. That oil will be junk when and if you would ever reach 200 Hrs. My dealer told me to change the oil at 20 hrs, and re-install BREAK IN OIl. I did that so it doesn't burn oil as it ages.

My dealer also has a 2210 and he changes the oil every 20 Hrs and the Oil filter every other change. Its simple to understand why when You see how little oil is in the motor. I change every 25 hrs and every other on the filter.

I agree Deadman, I'm just telling you what the manual reads. It being under warranty I would think they would want you to change it sooner myself. I spoke to the dealer and he suggested every 50 hours.

 

[Deadman]

Remember you can buy the "break-in oil" if you want to change the oil and put that back in. Its available at the dealers.

I just know that the oil in my 2210 comes out like TAR after 25 hrs.

 

[sandman2234]

Deadman,
Is your tractor operating up to sufficent operating temperature, or a little on the low side?
Do you know the sulfur content in the fuel you are burning?
Both would make for dirtier oil than what is considered normal.
Diesels tend to get nastier looking oil than gas burners, anyway.

Many years ago, while taking an automotive class at a local college, we viewed an oil study from another college. It suggested oil actually gets better from use, not worse. The problem, and reason for us changing the oil, is the dirt, which gets into it.
During WWII, airplanes were put on an oil filter change/top it off and send it back out schedule, to conserve oil, and still maintain the airplane engines.
David from jax

 

[kljunior]

While it is true that the owners manual does not mention an engine oil change untill 200 hours, I think it is a typo. Look under the hood and you will see that the service intervals are on the decal and it includes the initial engine oil and filter change at 50hrs. , then every 200. i did mine at 52hrs. and I will do it once a year as I will only be averaging about 75 hrs a year. I did not reinstall break-in oil. No one in my dealers service dept (and they are very knowledgable) thought that that was required, or even a good idea.
I think the idea here is to get the contaminates which are inherent to the manufacturing process of the engine as well as the small filings and debris which are a by-product of engine break-in, out of the engine.

 

[cast_and_blast]

While it is true that the owners manual does not mention an engine oil change untill 200 hours, I think it is a typo.

My 2305 manual clearly shows the first oil change to be at 50 hours. It then goes on to show oil changes at every 200 hours or yearly, whichever comes first.

I believe it's on page 31.

Scott

 

[EasyE]

My 2305 manual clearly shows the first oil change to be at 50 hours. It then goes on to show oil changes at every 200 hours or yearly, whichever comes first.

I believe it's on page 31.

Scott

Mine is on page 32 and at the top it says After first 50 hours: Change "transmission" oil and filter. It doesn't mention the "engine" oil until 200 hours. Could it be we have two different manuals?

 

[bigreddmax]

OK, I'm surely confused....my manual does not indicate an oil change until 200 hours AND on page 36, bottom of left hand column says "Do not use break in oils".
I plan on changing at 25 hours and probably use a 5 w 40 Mobil 1 synthetic oil.

 

[EasyE]

bigreddmax, it's easy to do, just be prepared for the first time, the filter is going to be a B*#**. Other than that it's OK. I will probably change mine more often than required.

 

[ihookem]

Just change it often. It takes 3 quarts and a filter. That's 9 bucks.