2305 PTO not engaging

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Hindsight, the fan job was not easy. We went in from the top which required removing the ROPS, green fender/seat base, and the floor. This meant all the foot pedals must come off except the hydrostatic. Getting the driveshaft off took special long punches like mentioned above. We took a short 1/8" drill and drilled it into a foot long 1/2 metal rod to make a punch for the inner spring pin. We had a punch the size of the outer. We took the time to clean the pto splines with a nylon brush and shot a couple pumps of grease into the u joints.

Not only was the transmission's fan broke, it was covered with a thick layer of dirt and grass acting as insulation. So it was a double whammy of heat build up. The hydraulic oil was dark like maple syrup. The internal screen had a fair amount of fines on it externally and the magnets were covered with about a 1/16" of an inch of mud like metal fines. The operator was engaging the PTO while the engine was revved up to the max. I guess I would recommend to owners of these machines to somehow clean off the top of the tranny and it's fins for good cooling.

We bent a break over bar loosening the ROPS bolts. The solenoid took a 27mm DEEP socket. Got a black one at Harbor freight for $2.97 Also, an assortment of snap ring pliers were needed.

 

[Gator6x4]

Glad you got the fan replaced. Sorry it was a much more involved job than the instructions stated. Your repair of the 2305 and what you have found while doing the repairs highlights that some users of equipment spell use as, "USE" and other spell it as "ABUSE". Your repairs will probably give the unit several more years of productive life. Congratulations on a job well done.

 

[bkwalker42]

Ok it's fixed, but it wasn't easy as we had to make some small plastic parts to replace the ones that broke. These are internal on the solenoid valve. They basically encapsulate a spring to return the internal stem to its native position. Deere doesn't sell these parts except with the whole solenoid which is a Kanzaki (sp?). I guess if someone needed some, they could take the broken pieces to a shop and have them make them some. We used a high end plastic called PEEK which would be expensive to use but since we had some laying around, we used it. Plus, I guess I should have said that I work in a machine shop to start with. I guess if anyone needed some, I could maybe make them some for a small fee plus shipping.
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Old broken piece and 1 good piece.

Any chance of getting two of those little spring retainers? That appears to be the only thing wrong with my solenoid, and to replace the whole solenoid nowadays is over $400.

 

[beenthere]

bkwalker42
:welcome: to TBN

Sounds like you have the solenoid apart.. post a pic or two of the retainers pls.

 

[bkwalker42]

I don't have any handy, but I should be able to get some posted. I was also curious if anyone had a picture of the correct reassembly. The plastic came out in pieces so we really couldn't tell how it all went together.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Ok it's fixed, but it wasn't easy as we had to make some small plastic parts to replace the ones that broke. These are internal on the solenoid valve. They basically encapsulate a spring to return the internal stem to its native position. Deere doesn't sell these parts except with the whole solenoid which is a Kanzaki (sp?). I guess if someone needed some, they could take the broken pieces to a shop and have them make them some. We used a high end plastic called PEEK which would be expensive to use but since we had some laying around, we used it. Plus, I guess I should have said that I work in a machine shop to start with. I guess if anyone needed some, I could maybe make them some for a small fee plus shipping.
View attachment 274921
Old broken piece and 1 good piece.

Any chance of getting two of those little spring retainers? That appears to be the only thing wrong with my solenoid, and to replace the whole solenoid nowadays is over $400.

If your not in a super hurry, I will try to make some in the next 10 days. I'm super busy at work right now. Wish you would have broke down when I'm slow. I will have to find the files I made them with first. Will keep you posted.
Kyle

 

[bkwalker42]

If your not in a super hurry, I will try to make some in the next 10 days. I'm super busy at work right now. Wish you would have broke down when I'm slow. I will have to find the files I made them with first. Will keep you posted.
Kyle

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly buddy. My brother-in-law found one locally yesterday afternoon. I do appreciate your willingness to help out, but hopefully this fixes the issue.
Thank again!!

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly buddy. My brother-in-law found one locally yesterday afternoon. I do appreciate your willingness to help out, but hopefully this fixes the issue.
Thank again!!

Glad to hear it.

Can you tell me if it takes 2 of the little rings and are they the same? I can't find my files, but I found the 2 parts in the picture.

 

[bkwalker42]

Glad to hear it.

Can you tell me if it takes 2 of the little rings and are they the same? I can't find my files, but I found the 2 parts in the picture.

Yes sir, it has two little black plastic matching rings to hold the spring in place.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Yes sir, it has two little black plastic matching rings to hold the spring in place.

So did your BIL find a decent used one?

When I get caught up at work, I will make some of them and have them available.

Thanks.