231S vs. 451

   / 231S vs. 451 #11  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The 451 is larger, more power, more room and has FWA available. )</font>
They might be more roomy but they are one of the most confined tractors I've ever sat on for their size. I'm not small by any means ( 6' 3" 275 lbs. ) but I made sure the seat was all the way back and it was still a whole lot more confining than our 135 Massey.
 
   / 231S vs. 451 #12  
IM so pleased with mine overall that I forgot that we did take the seat up and move it back slightly but Im only 5ft9"tall so that may not help you as much.
 
   / 231S vs. 451 #13  
We've just done our first bit of hay with the 451 and I can't be more pleased! It's dealing with the hills, the weight, and even the soft parts of the field.

We were able to upgrade our mower from a sicklebar to a 6 disc Kuhn and it is so nice to not have to back up and unbind every 4 feet in thick grass.

My beef with the seat is opposite of yours - we're short, especially women in the family and the seat does not come far enough forward. But such has always been the case, so we just get out the old cushion.
 

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