24' x 50' Shop Build in VA

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#31  
Has anyone here used DIY spray foam kits? If so where did you get them? How did you like the product?

I'm gonna consider spray foam on the ceiling only right now, then doing the sidewalls as I can afford it.
 
   / 24' x 50' Shop Build in VA #32  
I've only read a bunch of reviews and a few articles in the trade magazines. None where positive. The main complaint was how big of a mess it is. Then the guns plug up over and over again.
 
   / 24' x 50' Shop Build in VA #33  
DIY spray kits are good for small areas, and in fact probably the best idea. For large areas, they are waaaay too expensive, and very inefficient. You want to spray a lot, you need the drums and spray gear that the pros have. Plus experience. Have used the Tiger foam kit (one kit) for a small, troublesome section and it was the bees knees, but i would not consider getting like 100 of them for a building roof like you may need. Small problem area? Sure. Whole building? no way. If you are going to get a kit you want the full size ones that look like a min propane tank. Anything smaller and you might as well just be using the spray cans of GreatStuff
 
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#34  
Finally dried up enough to remove the last of the concrete. When it dries up a little more, we will excavate the top soil and start working the drainage out. The original concrete appears to have been poured directly over topsoil with no rebar. None of it ever cracked.......strange.





 
   / 24' x 50' Shop Build in VA #35  
The number one reason concrete cracks is from the amount of water used when mixing it. Adding water increases volume. When the water evaporates, then amount of volume decreases, and you get cracks. More water, more cracks. Less water, fewer cracks. Rarely does settling result in cracks. Settle soil under a slab will either create a void, or it will break off and give you a lot more then just a crack.
 
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#36  
So, as in life plans change. I'm going to be using perma-colums rather than brackets on a poured pad.

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to level each perma column? If they were all placed on the same grade, the posts could be cut on the ground and installed. I imagine a laser transit would do the job, but once I auger the hold, how do I level them? Stone? Quarry Dust?
 
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#37  
I'll be picking up my Perma-Columns next week and the trusses on Sunday.

I do have a question about vapor barrier in concrete floors. Pro's, Con's, what are people using. Anything special to consider?
 
   / 24' x 50' Shop Build in VA #38  
I've never used permanent columns, but why can't you cut.off the posts once they are installed to make it level?
 
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#39  
First I'd like to give a big shout out to the guys at Stoneburner Inc. in Harrisonburg VA, they are post frame specialists and went well out of their way getting me my Perma-Columns and stayed after work for an hour so I could pick them up after my normal work day. Building Contractor For Houses, Garages, Barns, and Commercial Structures | Stoneburner, Inc.

Here are the Perma-Columns loaded up to come home, I'm very impressed already with these products. I chose the 3 ply glu-lam model so I can use super straight and white Glu-Lam columns.





After a long day picking up trusses last Sunday also I owe another shout out to Build-A-Barn LLC in Danville WV. They offer a very nice product at a very nice price and were also super easy to work with about picking up the trusses on a Sunday. http://www.buildabarnllcwv.com/

Here's a pic of the first couple of trusses assembled. and stacked against the fence. You can see my new GSD puppy having a little fun at the expense of a piece of strap.




I will be laying out my batter boards today to get ready to cut the pad area down to the subsoil. To get ready to install the Perma-Columns and have the floor poured. My concrete contractor and I agreed on I would set the form boards around the bottom of the Perma-Columns and have the gravel dumped in the pad location. Probably will wind up with 10-12" of #57's. He will level the gravel and compact them, place remesh and pour a 30' x 30' x 5" thick pad of 4000 PSI concrete for $3000. I thought the price was very fair. I will be photo documenting that process as well.

It's all starting to come together now, stay tuned.
 
   / 24' x 50' Shop Build in VA #40  
Hey bob g you are close to me though. I am in Powhatan. I just built a pole barn as large as the county would let me build and not be commercial.
 

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