3 pt hitch wood splitter how many tons?

[Jeff Lary]

My question is, If I buy a splitter for my L2950 how many tons of pressure will it produce ?
And do they sell one with a split wood tray that catches the wood before it falls to the ground?
I have posted some questions about splitters in the past but could not find them. I had decided pretty much to buy a gasoline powered unit .Based on somthing I had read in one of my question responces about the tractor not producing as much tonage as a gasoline powered unit and it inherintely being slower to cycle.
We own a 27 ton but shared owenship is just not working out. So my next purchase will be a splitter of some type. The 27 ton works pretty well as far as power goes.Thanks for your opinion. Jeff

 

[LD1]

My question is, If I buy a splitter for my L2950 how many tons of pressure will it produce ?

That is a simple function of the diameter of the cylinder on the splitter, and the PSI your tractor produces.

Typical tractor pressure is ~2400 psi, and with a 4" cylinder that would be ~30,000lbs......15 ton

this calculator is helpful Hydraulic Cylinder Calculator

 

[creekbend]

Re:LD1 Thanks for the info. I just added that to my Favorites bar.:thumbsup:

 

[WilliamBos]

My question is, If I buy a splitter for my L2950 how many tons of pressure will it produce ?
And do they sell one with a split wood tray that catches the wood before it falls to the ground?
I have posted some questions about splitters in the past but could not find them. I had decided pretty much to buy a gasoline powered unit .Based on somthing I had read in one of my question responces about the tractor not producing as much tonage as a gasoline powered unit and it inherintely being slower to cycle.
We own a 27 ton but shared owenship is just not working out. So my next purchase will be a splitter of some type. The 27 ton works pretty well as far as power goes.Thanks for your opinion. Jeff

How many GPM do you have?? We own a Wallenstein WX310, and it has been great. Started out on an MF 1523, with 5.4GPM at the remotes. Now on a MF 1635 with 11.6 GPM, only real difference is a little faster, and a little more 'Pop'

Yes, they do have the tray, so the logs do not hit your feet. But if they are big, you can still handle them before they hit the ground.





Any more questions, feel free to ask.

 

[Ken45101]

There are two types of 3pt log splitters: those that run off of the tractor hydraulics, and those that have their own hydraulics that run off of the pto. Obviously the later is more expensive because it has it's own pump and tank. But it's not limited by the tractor hydraulic lines available.

I have had a gas powered 22t Huskee trailer type of splitter. It's done a good job but after being to the repair shop twice this year and having died again, I'm giving up on it. I have a 3pt PTO splitter on order that should be here in the next couple of days.

I see a couple of advantages to the 3pt splitters:

-- Obviously it's one less engine to maintain or have problems :thumbsup:

-- Unlike the typical gas splitter where the wedge is mounted on the ram, a splitter with the ram pushing against the wedge should be better at finishing a split. Often when the wedge is on the ram, a big piece doesn't split all the way, has to be freed up and flipped over to finish from the other end. With a splitter where it pushes against a fixed wedge, I assume I can just put in the next log and let it push the first one completely through.

-- With pushing against the fixed wedge and no axle and wheels underneath, I should be able to position the 3pt splitter over the wood box or trailer and the split wood will fall right onto the trailer without having to pick it up off the ground.

I'll soon see if my theories are right ;-)

Ken

 

[LD1]

I have had a gas powered 22t Huskee trailer type of splitter. It's done a good job but after being to the repair shop twice this year and having died again, I'm giving up on it. I have a 3pt PTO splitter on order that should be here in the next couple of days.





Ken

We have had no problems in 10 years with our speeco/huskee 27T splitter.

What are the issues you have been having?

Splitter itself, or motor issues? If motor, what motor is on it?

 

[Ken45101]

What are the issues you have been having?

Splitter itself, or motor issues? If motor, what motor is on it?

It's a B&S engine.

This spring, it wouldn't start run for more than a few seconds. Turned out to be water in the carb. A week later, I found that the gas tank was cracked (probably the source of the water?). Old age? Ethanol?

A couple of weeks ago, it started and split a couple of pieces before it loaded down and died. Now it's extremely hard to pull the starter rope. Could be the engine, or the pump is binding up, or the pressure relief valve is stuck...or something else. Whichever it is, it probably won't be cheap and I'll have put at least 50% of the purchase price into repairs this year if I get it fixed. At that point I wonder what will be next....

Ken

 

[LD1]

It almost sounds like what ours does, but not quite.

In the winter, when it is cold, you have to pump the primer bulb several times (8-10) and then she will start. After that, it will only run for about 2 seconds and then die.......unless you pump the primer a few more times, then it will run a few more seconds and start to die.....hit the primer a few more times.....so on and so on. Takes about 6 times before it will run on its own.

Just chalked it up to the nature of the beast Been that way since nearly new. A couple of years ago, the gas tank also developed a crack. But only does it when over half full. So we always store it with almost no gas.:thumbsup:

This is the briggs 6.5HP vanguard that is on ours.

What are your plans with the splitter now? May just need a $200 motor and be good

 

[Ken45101]

What are your plans with the splitter now? May just need a $200 motor and be good

Yeah but $200 on top of the $200 I already spent on it this year....what's next? Actually the way it died, I suspect it's not the motor.

When I get time, I plan to try to figure out what's wrong with it. If it's the engine or pump, I may do the hoses directly to the tractor hydraulics and use it that way. If it's the relief valve or operating valve and those are expensive, I probably won't put more money into it.

Ken

 

[Jeff Lary]

So if you have one with a pto pump of it own will it produce more tons than one without that just runs from my 30 hp tractor ? and would it have a faster cycle time?

 

[LD1]

So if you have one with a pto pump of it own will it produce more tons than one without that just runs from my 30 hp tractor ? and would it have a faster cycle time?

Depends on how much psi and gpm the pump is compaired to your tactors psi and gpm.

PSI determines force
GPM determines speed

 

[Carl_NH]

Jeff,

Your 2950 should have around a 7 GPM flow rate which should run a splitter fine - maybe a tad slow but it will work just fine.

I have a 3 PT with my B21 run off the BH connection (two hyd pumps) splitter from Doug at Ramsplitter with a outboard tray after the head that catches the big pieces - I rest the large chunks on that while spliiting.

It works well - the GPM will dictate the speed of the ram mostly - I wouldnt be so concerned about the tonnage.

Here's an older pic of my setup - mounted on the FEL so I can use my BH with Thumb to lift and cut the logs then swap lines and cut. I cut about a half cord then split it.

Also that front Y leg is held in with a pin so remove that using the FEL drop it to the ground for the big oak pieces.

 

[Jeff Lary]

well according to the tractor sales place mine has a gpm of 7 to 8 gpm.He did say though if you got one that has it's own pto pump it can supply more oil faster that the tractor itself.

 

[Jeff Lary]

I also have a home built thumb on the fel myself ( i did not build it though ).I assume I could use the lines to run the thumb to run the splitter? That way I could also keep my bh attached and would not have to remove it to run the splitter on the rear 3pt hitch ?

 

[WilliamBos]

well according to the tractor sales place mine has a gpm of 7 to 8 gpm.He did say though if you got one that has it's own pto pump it can supply more oil faster that the tractor itself.

Wallenstein has a PTO pump option. Saw a WX 370 withone.

 

[J_J]

Yes, you can use your thumb hyd to power your splitter.

As far as tonnage, depends on the wood you have to split.

3 in cyl and 1.5 shaft, 2500 psi, = 17, 671 lbs

4 in, 2 in shaft-------------------= 31,416 lbs

5 in, 2.5 -------------------------= 49,087 lbs

 

[Jeff Lary]

That sounds as thought I should save that info for future use. So if I know the cyl / barrel size I can know what tons to expect?

 

[Carl_NH]

Thanks JJ for the "tonnage/size" info. I would agree using the ports already there for the splitter - just put some disconnects and you have a nice setup. Do you have a thumb on the hoe? That would make for a nice setup..

When I got my splitter I had them upgrade to the 4" cylinder 2" shaft and it splits everything I have encountered so far.

The only drawback the larger the cylinder it takes more GPM so is slower to fill. I run my B21 at 13-1400 RPM and its quick enough for me to put it in return mode, then get another log in the splitter before it retracts all the way.

So "slow" doesnt overwork me and still get a decent output.

 

[roman]

We have a Wallenstein wx310 also and got a 4 way wedge for it last year. It slpits everything with the single wedge and 95% of it with the 4 way. The problem ones are the crotches. The wedge slips right off the single and right back on. Definately worth the $100...
I run the tractor at 12-1300 rpm.