Spudland_Dave
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Dont let the size of the Turbo have ANY factor...Turbo Diesels have been around a LONG time and I wouldnt personally buy a diesel anything without one.
On PTO Work, it makes a WORLD of difference...
3038E vs 3005 Which one?
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Dont let the size of the Turbo have ANY factor...Turbo Diesels have been around a LONG time and I wouldnt personally buy a diesel anything without one.
On PTO Work, it makes a WORLD of difference...
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nunyabinis
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Another question for you folks that just hit me:
With a hydro tranny, how do you gauge what is the "right" speed for a particular implement?
For instance, I know that while pulling my KK Tiller with my JD 750 at the correct PTO speed, the tiller works best when the tractor is in fourth gear.
How the heck does that work with a hydro??? You have a Low and High range and a throttle but the actual forward speed is controlled by how far you depress the "forward" pedal. How do you "gauge" that and keep one constant "correct" speed?
Sorry for the stupidity but as I wrote before, I don't know doodley about a hydro.
With a hydro tranny, how do you gauge what is the "right" speed for a particular implement?
For instance, I know that while pulling my KK Tiller with my JD 750 at the correct PTO speed, the tiller works best when the tractor is in fourth gear.
How the heck does that work with a hydro??? You have a Low and High range and a throttle but the actual forward speed is controlled by how far you depress the "forward" pedal. How do you "gauge" that and keep one constant "correct" speed?
Sorry for the stupidity but as I wrote before, I don't know doodley about a hydro.
that's a very good question actually. As for my 2305, the tiller will pretty much push it along at about the right speed, you just kind of get a feel for it and keep her going at what's working good. Kind of kentucky Windage it!
Spudland_Dave
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You get a good feel for it in a matter of seconds. Normally I've been able to snowblow & plow my drive in 2nd range...Monday's 22" of wet heavy stuff put me into 1st range...I knew in about 15 seconds of blowing I needed to be in Range #1.
I dont think the option for this feature is on the machines you listed, but you can get the "Automotive Cruise" kit for the eHydro machines and that allows you to actually set a speed in MPH as a top speed...slam the pedal to the ground and she'll only go XX mph...which I've heard is good for things like Snowblowing and Tilling. I dont have it, but eventually I'll get it as a gift to myself to have a few more buttons & doo dads in the cab...
I dont think the option for this feature is on the machines you listed, but you can get the "Automotive Cruise" kit for the eHydro machines and that allows you to actually set a speed in MPH as a top speed...slam the pedal to the ground and she'll only go XX mph...which I've heard is good for things like Snowblowing and Tilling. I dont have it, but eventually I'll get it as a gift to myself to have a few more buttons & doo dads in the cab...
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I think that using PTO implements with a Hydro tranny is alot easier than with a gear machine. Especially the new, electric PTO models.
Run the throttle up to say, 1,500rpm; hit the PTO button and begin to slowly depress the forward pedal ( so the tiller, etc. isn't sitting in one spot churning away) and throttle up to 540 PTO rpm's. From that point, you can vary your speed (without affecting the PTO) for field conditions by letting up or pushing down on the forward pedal.
And if you run into something that is a problem - rock pile, big tree roots, etc. - hit that PTO button and everything STOPS! Then you can worry about the forward motion of the tractor; pull on thru or stop, etc.
With a gear tractor; varying speeds for field conditions meant either stopping to shift to another gear or trying to work the throttle without bogging the tiller, etc. With the Hydro - you don't have to mess with the throttle or the gears - just vary the pressure on the pedal.
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msengstock
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My biggest problem, unless I'm mistaken - please correct me, the 3038E is replacing a machine you used to be able to get a backhoe for .... as we say in the 'hood: no hoe no mo' - in that machine 'class' I guess
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nunyabinis
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Correct, but not really a deciding factor for me. I ain't payin' almost 8 grand for no hoe no way.
On the rare occasion that I need a hoe, I'll rent one for $200.
GreenWannabe
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As I understand it, these models are only replacing a single model, the 3203, which did not take a backhoe either. The 3120 was dropped to lack of interest (sales), as I understand it. The 3005, 3320, 3520, and 3720 are the remaining models in the 3000 series which can have a backhoe. Current backhoe models for the 3x20 series are the 7'8" capacity model 385, which can be used with both open station and cabbed tractors; and the 8'9" model 475, which can be used only on open station tractors. The 7'6" model 7 is for the 3005 tractor. HTH.
The 3005 is no frills, solid tractor with the biggest benefit in my mind -- no electronics to foul up. It will last for years of good service. Otherwise if you want a comfortable seat, hydro, etc., etc., go with the 3038E.
FWIW try the four cylinder 4005 if you can find it!
J
FWIW try the four cylinder 4005 if you can find it!
J
jcmseven
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I recently bought a 2320, but in my looking I went over several options with my dealer who stocks a bunch of tractors and has a great deal of knowledge on them. In short, the 3032 and 3038 machines are true price point tractors (read cheap) and do NOT offer some of the same features of the other JD machines. They are not bad machines, but one has to be careful with the HP readings. The 3005 is rated for almost as much torque at rated speed and has a super-efficient gear drive transmission. If one does not mind shifting and does not do a ton on loader work, it is an excellent machine. There is NO question in my mind the 3005 is the way to go in this price range of machine, unless one has a strong desire for the hydro tranny. Also bear in mind going hydro might sap some of that minor power difference making the increased HP a wash. I have seen many 790's and 990's abused beyond belief and still are running fine. I have not, of course, seen any of the 3032/38 machines in similar state
John M
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