3pt. hitch woodsplitter

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Been thinking of buying a 3pt. hitch hydraulic woodsplitter. I split 1 quad axle log truck load of wood a year.

I looked at Wallenstein and am considering them. Only real must is that it will work vertical. I'm not lifting all that wood up onto a horizontal splitter!

I want a good one to last me for years to come.

Anyone have a 3pt. hitch hydraulic splittler or experience with one?
 
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Been thinking of buying a 3pt. hitch hydraulic woodsplitter. I split 1 quad axle log truck load of wood a year.

I looked at Wallenstein and am considering them. Only real must is that it will work vertical. I'm not lifting all that wood up onto a horizontal splitter!

I want a good one to last me for years to come.

Anyone have a 3pt. hitch hydraulic splittler or experience with one?

I'm thinking about one of the Wally splitters myself. I just got their BXM32 chipper/shredder. It is one fine machine, very well built and works like a champ. So I now have confidence in them. If you do get a Wallenstein splitter please let us know which model and how you like it.

Al

P.S. Woodward Crossings had a great price on the BXM32, so you may want to check their prices on the splitters.
 
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I know some like them and some dont and there are pros and cons to both but I am not a fam of 3PH splitters.

So I have to ask why are you considering one instead of a stand-alone.

There are several reasons I wouldn't want one.

First of all, your tractor has a 8.6GPM single stage pump and 2500psi. A decient splitter like a Speeco/TSC huskee will typically have a 16GPM pump @ 3000psi. Which is typically faster and have more force. (assuming the 3PH splitter isn't driven off the PTO.

Second reason is I see it as a big waste. To use a 37HP tractor to split wood isn't going to be as efficcient as a small 8HP gas motor. And I wouldn't want to run up the hours/wear/tear on a $25000 tractor when a $1200 splitter will do just fine, and probabally faster.

There are several good reviews of speeco splitters (same as TSC Huskee's) over on arboristsite as well as the rest of the web. We have had their 27 ton model for about 10 years @ 25-30 cord per year. We have had to do absolutly nothing to it other than regular maintenance/filters/fluids.

We also like to make a day in the woods of felling/cutting/splitting/and loading. With 2-3 people doing different things. A 3PH splitter ties up the tractor that we could be using for other things while someone else splits.

Just some food for thought. I am curious why YOU want one instead of a stand alone?? There must be a market for them or they'd quit making them. I have just never saw any benifits of them other than a few hundred bucks savings. But the added maintenance cost/wear/fuel/hours on the tractor would offset that in no time. Just my opionion though.
 
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I have a Wessex / Bell and it would not be on my list to buy again.

However, a more general point I have learned trying to sort issues with my splitter is to look at the sixze of the RAM vs the splitting power quoted. A 4" RAM will give approx 12T at 2000psi (approx). A cheaper product may try to get the same force with a 3.25" RAM and a 3200psi pump.

J
 
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a little over a year ago i built a 3ph splitter (i only had to buy the valve, cylinder, lines, fittings, and pins - the structural parts were pretty much all surplus collected over the last 10 years. i have two new regency wood burners - one medium and one large. by my opinions, neither of them are very big, but they do produce a lot of heat and don't use much wood. i have to cut all my wood 16" long to be able to fit both stoves. i also cut it to 4" or less diameter due to the door size.

i was planning on the same vertical approach because large pieces are too awkward to lift and balance, but an uncle basically told me to rethink because since it's a 3ph, i can drop it flat on the ground. i used a 4" beam when i built it, so it sits low enough that very large logs could be rolled on it. this eliminates the need for the vertical option. after using it, i find that i like the beam very high. it puts the work at a level where i'm not hunched over to operate it. if you have/add a small table then the wood will stay at level so you can break the large pieces down into smaller ones without bending.

i built my splitter very small (3-1/2x18 cylinder, 19" log opening), since the power source is also small (jd770-5.6gpm). i reasoned that i don't often split extremely large hardwoods, and i can't use over 18", so why wait for a 24" cylinder to take up the slack after it cycles back. if you buy it you generally get tops, and are 16" and under for good burning hardwoods. to date, i have only split logs that i have dropped around the property, and nothing over 12", but it went through those with ease. i'm sure i'll eventually have something it won't handle, so i may have to occasionally saw a log in half, but it hasn't happened yet. besides, in my mind it's criminal to turn large hardwoods into firewood. with the price of good cabinetmaking lumber, i'd turn large logs into lumber before i burned them.
 
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I bought a used Timberwolf TW-3, 3PT splitter and love it. It has a PTO pump that puts out 20GPM and the result is a 6 sec cycle time and virtually no waiting. If you want a unit built for the long haul, look at a Timberwolf.
 
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When my horizontal splitter was at the wrong place, I rented a vertical one. Never again will I use a vertical splitter. It's **** on your back since you are always bent over moving the rounds and the split pieces.
YMMV
 
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I tend to agree I like to do the initial lift and then split. All i have is horizontal one. But I can see where it would be an advantage to go vertical for the huge ones.
 
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A nice thing about my 3 PT splitter is the abality to move it up and down. All the way from the ground, up to a comfortable working height. I also can adjust he height so it clears the back of my utility trailer and I slplit right into the trailer.
 
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I have a Wessex / Bell and it would not be on my list to buy again.

However, a more general point I have learned trying to sort issues with my splitter is to look at the sixze of the RAM vs the splitting power quoted. A 4" RAM will give approx 12T at 2000psi (approx). A cheaper product may try to get the same force with a 3.25" RAM and a 3200psi pump.

J

A 3.25 ram @ 3200psi actually has 1500lbs more force than a 4" @ 2000psi.

Just because a smaller ram and higher psi pump is used does not mean that it is a cheaper product. But what it does mean is that if GPM of both pumps is the same, the 3.25 ram will cycle faster due to much less volume to fill the cylinder.

But I do agree with the fact that most splitters are overrated on tonnage. I've seen 4" cylinders rated anywhere from 18-22 ton and 4.5" I have seen rated up to 30 ton.

Even though I doubt (I may be wrong) that most splitters hoses/valve/cylinder are rated to 3500psi That is what out speeco/husky 27 ton will peak at with ram all the way extended. which makes it a true 27 ton.
 
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I've got two 3pth splitters, both homemade and given to me on extended loans. One is vert, the other horizontal. I'VE NEVER used either one while on my 3pth. The vert is chained to my woodshed and the horizontal gets moved to other areas where I may be splitting.
My JD4300 runs them at 1500rpm and they split as fast as I want to feed the wood (about 4 bush cords/yr, sometimes more). Both units have longer than necessary strokes and small diameter rams with basic valves, but on big knarly wood I just spin the chunk and take smaller slices.
If I had lots of help and tried to do all my wood in a week-end then I would rent/buy a portable stand alone horizontal so I could move the logs with my forks, but now I just pile a dozen or so, block them, then hook up the hydraulics and split as I have the time and energy.
 
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I built my own splitter for the 3 point a few years back because I could not find what I wanted factory made. Most 3 point splitters go across the back of the tractor only allowing 1 person work at the splitter at a time. I built mine to stick out the back of the tractor. It will go horizontal or vertical and will split anything I throw at it at 1200 rpm behind my Jinma 28HP tractor.

Chris
 
/ 3pt. hitch woodsplitter #13  
I'm one of the stand alone units over a 3pt hitch splitter guys. Even though my splitter will lift up to split horz or vert I find it's easier to use the FEL to lift logs to a height that they can just be rolled onto the splitter.

That PTO powered unit Bob talked about sounds like a beast. It's almost too fast. The waiting for the ram is kind of like a mini break. A 6 second cycle time would be great but I bet you must be tired after using it.
 
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I use a PTO splitter, but I'm not going to try to make a case for it.

I think the argument goes both ways about not running the tractor to split wood. I just see it as adding 10-12 hours per year to the clock for firewood processing is not a big deal. It is a very capable machine why not just use it. That is why I bought it.
 
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I use an American AM TMH 48 on my 3710. I like the fact that huge rounds can be rolled on to the I beam. In fact I often have the top of the I beam at near ground level for the big rounds and have the flexibility of raising the work station up to suit the terrain and work conditions.

A stand alone unit is fine but just one more piece of equipment to maintain, that I definately do not need. (I had to chuckle about this one as my neighbor rented a standalone splitter from the local tool rental guys. it was new and they never bothered to check and see if it had oil in the crankcase. THAT was ugly!)

I split over 20 cord of wood last year and am looking to match that this year.

The tractor runs at a nice, QUIET 1500 rpms and produces enough force and flow to match my desired pace of work. Having the tractor tied up is not an issue for me...... Its big brother (see <<<<<< picture) does the wood hauling duties, right off the splitter, (unless I need to go a long distance with the wood). The other nice thing is that a tph splitter will go ANYWHERE the tractor will go. No fussing with towing it into and out of tight places or setting it up on odd terrain.

If someone gave me a stand alone unit, I would sell it. But again, "we a two tractor family".
 
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I've got both, I use the stand alone splitter more often and split more wood with the 3 point. I use the stand alone when I need to split a little wood now and again, when I need to really split wood I get the tractor. The GPM argument is hogwash, the 2 stage pumps only go fast when they are not splitting, if you run the splitter well it will always be splitting. My 3 point will split more wood in the same time than my stand alone. 2nd point was efficiency. I can run both units all day long and burn less diesel than gas while splitting more wood with the diesel. Small Gas engines are not real efficient, diesels are. Last point is horizontal, or vertical. I find I like the 3 point for the large wood because by the time its too large to lift it will easily roll onto the beam of my 3 point when its laid on the ground. I find wood very cumbersome once its laid onto its flat end, especilly large rounds. All that being said I like both units and either one will keep up with me easily. I do like the fact that the 3 point is one less engine to maintain. I also like that its easier to not lend it out.

Good Luck either way!!!
 
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I agree about the "lendability" issue.

With rare exception I do not lend out any of my hardware. I learned this the hard way.
 
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I think that you need to reconsider your vertical wood splitter application. Mine is fairly tame as to your requirements with the exception of being wood horizontal and height adjustable. This is a very worth while elevational-back breaking-up and down-necessary-work station adjusting-requirement in a hydraulic wood splitter. Just envision both wood round placements and I think you will be better off with a horizontal splitting unit of your choice.
 
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I bought a 3ph Ramsplitter last year. The quality was poor and the service was even worse. It arrived with damaged paint, missing parts, and a damaged hose. It took endless phone calls to get it resolved. When I needed a replacement hose for the damaged one, they asked me how long it was. Why would a mfr not know what they supplied? When the hose arrived it was the wrong one. My credit card was charged when I placed the order but the delivery kept getting delayed beyond my own specified delayed date.

It mounts crosswise and splits both vert and horizontally. I've split a ton of wood for myself and my neighbor and it works great. It runs off two remotes I installed myself and is plenty fast enough, even for two people. When I helped my neighbor we had to stop because we had wood everywhere! Working alone it's plenty fast enough for me. The four way slip on head deformed the cutting edges immediately and it should have been designed assymetrically so it would slip on either way depending on the diameter of the wood to be split.

Hopefully Ramsplitter has solved their quality of product and quality of service. The splitter works great and the horiz/vertical feature is really handy for those big rounds.
 
 

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