Great post. :thumbsup:
I have said before. The kids need to have their knee pads and helmets on and locked in a rubber room until they are 18. Then we can start more threads on how worthless young adults are these days.
4 year old tractor passenger killed
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Great post. :thumbsup:
I have said before. The kids need to have their knee pads and helmets on and locked in a rubber room until they are 18. Then we can start more threads on how worthless young adults are these days.
milkman636
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Some of my earliest memories involve tractors.
We lived in flat land and my dad used to pull all of us on sleds behind a tractor by hooking our sleds spaced evenly across the back blade he used for snow removal. We loved it and lived through it.
By 11 or 12 I was operating his small Ford. I would plow and disk the garden space, and mow around our house and a couple of neighbors, and do snow removal for three of the four house on our road. There was no back on the seat, no ROPS, loaded r1 tires, manual trans, no seatbelt. In the winters he had me back in the woods with him as early as 7 or 8 years old helping him carry the little pices of fire wood. It was all good quality time he my dad. He also took me fishing in a boat on water deep enough to drown in on a regular basis. And we never had car seats or wore the seatbelt in the car either. He probably should be in jail according to some of the safety Nazis on here.
I do take my kids for joyrides on the tractor,never while mowing or doing work. I want it to be fun and keep my attention on them. I take them fishing and swimming where they could drown, and I drive them in the car with me even though that is where most be people die in accidents.
We lived in flat land and my dad used to pull all of us on sleds behind a tractor by hooking our sleds spaced evenly across the back blade he used for snow removal. We loved it and lived through it.
By 11 or 12 I was operating his small Ford. I would plow and disk the garden space, and mow around our house and a couple of neighbors, and do snow removal for three of the four house on our road. There was no back on the seat, no ROPS, loaded r1 tires, manual trans, no seatbelt. In the winters he had me back in the woods with him as early as 7 or 8 years old helping him carry the little pices of fire wood. It was all good quality time he my dad. He also took me fishing in a boat on water deep enough to drown in on a regular basis. And we never had car seats or wore the seatbelt in the car either. He probably should be in jail according to some of the safety Nazis on here.
I do take my kids for joyrides on the tractor,never while mowing or doing work. I want it to be fun and keep my attention on them. I take them fishing and swimming where they could drown, and I drive them in the car with me even though that is where most be people die in accidents.
crbr
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I agree with you. In the format of a discussion forum, you have a valid point and no need for justification. I would never risk the life of a child with a risk that can be avoided or that has little or no value relative to the irreversable consequences of injury of death.
However, someone has to contribute to the statistics of injury and fatalities.
milkman636
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Its a tragedy that happened here, and I'm sure that man will have a terrible time living with himself. Any further condemnation isn't really going to serve any purpose.
300UGUY
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I put my dogs in the house when I am mowing or using my tractor. I can't understand putting children at risk.
Andrewnewy
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A straight joy ride while working on a tractor is not safe, but this also includes any adults who jump on for the ride, or that chain saw you throw at your feet on the way to a job. This is way more common than you would think!
But, I think it is important to teach your kids about safety around machine / tractors. I was brought up being able to steer the tractor on my dads lap from a very young age, but as soon as it was time for work I had to get off and watch from a safe distance, this taught me to respect these machines, and as a consequence I never once went behind my parents backs to do something I shouldn't. I also doing the same with my son, now 2, he can ride with me, but only in a cab tractor, only when traveling slowly, and only on flat ground. As he gets older and can reach the pedals he will be allowed to start driving(I was 10 when I could drive solo) but once again, he will be wearing a seat belt, only driving slow, and in a safe, flat area. All of this will teach him to understand his limitations and respect the power of the machine.
I come back to a couple of point, these things are safe to do if you use common sense, a child could easily do just as much damage falling from a stationary tractor as from a moving one, I think the figure around our way is something like 70% of industrial fatalities are caused by people falling off objects no higher than 400mm of the ground, so it really doesn't take much to kill someone, you just have to use common sense and above all, parents need to supervise the kids.
But, I think it is important to teach your kids about safety around machine / tractors. I was brought up being able to steer the tractor on my dads lap from a very young age, but as soon as it was time for work I had to get off and watch from a safe distance, this taught me to respect these machines, and as a consequence I never once went behind my parents backs to do something I shouldn't. I also doing the same with my son, now 2, he can ride with me, but only in a cab tractor, only when traveling slowly, and only on flat ground. As he gets older and can reach the pedals he will be allowed to start driving(I was 10 when I could drive solo) but once again, he will be wearing a seat belt, only driving slow, and in a safe, flat area. All of this will teach him to understand his limitations and respect the power of the machine.
I come back to a couple of point, these things are safe to do if you use common sense, a child could easily do just as much damage falling from a stationary tractor as from a moving one, I think the figure around our way is something like 70% of industrial fatalities are caused by people falling off objects no higher than 400mm of the ground, so it really doesn't take much to kill someone, you just have to use common sense and above all, parents need to supervise the kids.
trlong
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HIGHLY AGREE. Rants and Raves here will not bring this child back, nor will they alleviate the family's pain. Might they change some one's mind to not carry children on tractors? Maybe but I doubt it.
Growing up tossing hay bales, riding on the "top of the load", "hunting" with .22's and shotguns with a bunch of young teenagers, climbing up and down river gorge rock walls with no ropes, harnesses, etc... I am amazed I, and my friends survived. I would not trade the experiences for anything. However, I am considerably older, and hopefully wiser now. 99% of all "accidents" are easily preventable. There is always a balance between living a full life and having no fun at all. Hopefully, we reap the rewards of our actions, and only we suffer the consequences.
IMHO Prayers, not condemnation should go to the family.
The Haymaker
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I have posted a U-tube video a few times about a 7 yr old girl that slipped off her farther's lap and run over by a brush hog. The video takes place in the girl's hospital room, showing her head and face. Then the camera pulls back and you see that she is in bed with half of her arm and leg missing, and a few fingers from the other hand missing too.
Harsh you say? You get a mules attention by first hitting him up-side the head with a 2 x 4.
As for bubble warp, hardly. I have taken adults and children up in open cockpit airplanes. Before anyone gets out of the car, the rules of airport etiquette are discussed.
NO running around.
NO fooling with propellers.
NO going near plans with the engine running.
Stay with the group at the safe location until ready to board the airplane.
You get one violation, the second one and you are packed up and heading home. No buts, no flying.
If haymaker were ever involved in such a incident, I am sure he would do the honorable thing and suck on his shoot gun.
Harsh you say? You get a mules attention by first hitting him up-side the head with a 2 x 4.
As for bubble warp, hardly. I have taken adults and children up in open cockpit airplanes. Before anyone gets out of the car, the rules of airport etiquette are discussed.
NO running around.
NO fooling with propellers.
NO going near plans with the engine running.
Stay with the group at the safe location until ready to board the airplane.
You get one violation, the second one and you are packed up and heading home. No buts, no flying.
If haymaker were ever involved in such a incident, I am sure he would do the honorable thing and suck on his shoot gun.