4310 or 4410 Help me decide!!

[rockyridgefarm]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( So, if you don't mind me asking, how do you TBN'ers like your back hoes? Have any of you done a comparison between the 47 and 48? )</font>

I think they're fantastic. As to comparison, I fell that well over 90% of my use will be 8 feet deep, or less. I can't see needing the 48 for me. There are plenty of folks who will argue that they aren't worth the price. Well, I couldn't get the tractor without the hoe, (or face you know who...)

I imagine digging stumps would go faster. But I am very pleased.

 

[butzkeg]

One the backhoe issue, I went with the 47. My reasons were based on how much I would actually use the hoe, and what the uses were. Honestly couldn't think of anything I would need to dig 8 ft. down for. Understood that the smaller hoe meant moving the tractor more. Neither one is cheap, but $1000 is $1000. I was already spending $29k, and I couldn't justify another grand for my use.

If the money didn't matter, I would have gone with the 48. For convenience sake (moving the tractor), and just because it's BIGGER. Looking at it now, I still couldn't justify the extra money for the 48, but have certainly made use of the 47. It's a very capable hoe. It was hard not to buy the biggest and best tool available; I usually do that. To my amazement, I have probably spent 1/4 of my seat time using the hoe. Other than cleaning up after the dogs, I haven't picked up a shovel since I bought it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sometimes I wonder if the 48 makes a big enough difference over the 47 for someone, maybe they should have a bigger machine all together. That is somewhat assuming they are pushing the limits regularily.

Your decision should boil down to your needs. If you plan on using the hoe quite a bit, going larger would probably be good. If you can live with the 47, go buy some more attachments.

 

[Old_Hickory]

Absolutely agree with you,
I have been timbering on my farm and I have taken several thousand board feet of log out of the woods and all with my John Deere 4 in 1 loader. I put 8' ft logs up to 20' logs in length and from 10" diameter to 23" inches diameter and put them on a 16' trailer,the ones which I cannot lift completely off of the ground with my grapple (4 in 1) I can lift one end up and put it on the trailer and slide it on the trailer.It will make a believer outta of you.Doing this with JD 4400
I have been averaging about 750 board ft a trailer load.

 

[bebster]

If the budget is limited, I'd suggest a 4N1 bucket on the 430 FEL, and go with the 47BH. That, in my opinion, would be more versatile than a standard bucket and 48BH. Of course both are best if you can afford them. The 4N1 feature of the bucket I use at least 25% of the time I use the bucket, whereas the additional reach/power of the 48BH is maybe a 5% to 10% plus factor in most tasks. (see attached picture of typical use).

The 4N1 needs an additional valve, which is cheaper to install when the tractor is being prep-ed by the dealer. But it is very easy to operate since it's just one more lever.

 

[Waldo]

Wow, thats a nice looking set-up /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Is that a Curtis cab?

I asked my dealer the other day about 4 in 1's and they don't carry them (very small operation). I will most likely will not get one right now, but due to the amount of positive comments I will keep them in mind. "Hay honey, lets talk about x-mas presents". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks to all of you TBN'ers, I'm getting smarter /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Waldo

 

[jdmar]

The 47 BH works great. I got mine with a used JD 4300 (only 120 hrs used that is) so I had no choice. The 47 can use the small 9" bucket that is great for trenching 4" pipe. I have also used it to pick up and position barnstone/sandstone for a retaining wall. I have dug large hole, trenches, pulled plants/trees/carried tons of items/held the old brush hog up to spray paint...and even used the bucket to wave to my children watching from the window ( that was the MOST important use!). I also used it to help tear down part of an old barn. It digs to over 7 feet. The 48 may be bigger but on a 4300/4310 the 47BH does great...and can even lift you up in the air. Happy with it...yep.

 

[bebster]

Yes, it's a Curtis canopy. Keeps the sun and rain of me and the tractor, and only about $400.

Back on the 4N1 bucket.. If you get a FEL with a standard bucket, and then you upgrade later, you'll probably never use that original bucket again. So I justified in my own mind getting the 4N1 at the start because I'd save money not buying the standard bucket. Some rationalization, huh!

 

[Big_Lug]

Bebster,

I recently bought a 4210 used and I am really dissapointed, I have alot of hot air that is blown from the engine toward the open sation around your feet and also I find the transmission develops alot of heat when you use the loader and 4wd> It is like sitting on a oven. Do you have the same problems? Please respond. My email is lapmedic@yahoo.com thanks

 

[RollTideRam]

Did you notice this a 5 year old post? Also the 4310 and 4410 are equal to the 3x20 series today. JC

 

[gbick]

What's the beef? Is there a problem with reviving an old thread if related to his model tractor?