Price Check 4410

[kennyd]

Right off the bat, I strongly suggest you buy the Service Manual!! You're going to need it, I think. And, get the Deere manual....those

Yes, get the FSM on CD. At only $75 it's a bargain: John Deere Technical Information Bookstore - Home Page

And also register for free at www.jdparts.com it's the same basic system the parts counter uses at the dealer and it's FREE! There is a quick tutorial linked in my signature if you need help with it.

 

[ducks13]

Thanks for the information. I took a better look at the tire/wheels last night and it does look like they can be reversed and get a wider track. I'll be ordering a service manual ASAP and it will be the factory manual. I'll be changing some of the fluids this weekend. In the hydro down here in North Carolina where the tempetures range from about 20 to 100 degree's which fluid should I be using? The manual (thanks for the link Roy) says low-vis is preferred but then gives you a chart to not use it over 80 degrees says Hy-gard can be used.

Checked the fuses last night, all good, I'll wait for the service manual to fix the lights.

 

[ducks13]

Oh yeah, now that I've got this thing home, I don't think there is anything 'compact' about this tractor, it is a beast for 2 acres. Makes that $2500 off a 2520 deal something to think about.

 

[RoyJackson]

Oh yeah, now that I've got this thing home, I don't think there is anything 'compact' about this tractor, it is a beast for 2 acres. Makes that $2500 off a 2520 deal something to think about.

"Compact" is, of course, a relative term...

I went from a compact (Deere 670) to a little bigger (790...I wanted a bit more PTO HP for a chipper) to a little bigger (4400 because I wanted that reverser transmission). This is for 2.5 acres.
Overall, the 790 was probably the best fit as far as size and HP, but I did get a great deal on the 4400.
I also got a 7' RFM when I bought the 4400 (came with the tractor). That's a heck of a lawn mower for an acre of lawn, now isn't it? (rest of the property is wooded). Nice mower (a Befco), but it's really a bit big.

So, enjoy your 4410. BTW, when you order your service manual, you may as well get the Operator's Manual too. The loader manual wouldn't hurt either.

 

[Zebrafive]

I would check the owners manual before setting the front wheels wider. My tractor has 12 position adjustment for the front wheels and give a max not exceed with a FEL.

 

[RoyJackson]

I would check the owners manual before setting the front wheels wider. My tractor has 12 position adjustment for the front wheels and give a max not exceed with a FEL.

Not much adjustment on the compact Deere MFWD tractors. All you can do is swap side to side or reverse the wheels.
Bigger 2WD Deeres do have a provision to increase the track.

 

[dfkrug]

I think the rears are already in the wide position if they have one but since you mentioned it Roy I was looking at the pictures and it looks like the fronts can be swapped for a wider track, am I correct?

I can't be sure from the pix, but the rear wheels' wider position is with the
valves inboard. If they use the same R4s as my 4300s have, the wider
position in the rear will gain you 3/4" overall width. For the fronts, don't
bother as your front axle pivots anyway.

Rental companies often have multiple units of the same tractor, so it is
possible that the rear wheels got swapped for those of another machine at
the rental yard. Often wheels are off more than one tractor at a time,
resulting in your mixup. (Ask me how I know.)

Hopefully your unit does not have bowed loader curl cylinder rods and a
loose loader mount.

 

[ducks13]

Got it cleaned up some today and some of the servicing. I think I got a pretty good deal. Nothing much wrong with it, resonably low hour, and the loader is mounted securely. When I took the side cover off to get to the engine oil filter I got a since of how this been used and service lately, the filter was marked as being installed at 800 hour (there is 950 on it now) and that was 4 years ago so it has not been seeing much in the way of regular use for some time. The air filter was very dirty so I replaced it today. Should be draining the transmission in the morning and the front axle as well as cleaning the suction side screen in the transmission.

 

[Johndeere3720]

Congratulations on the 4410! It sounds like it is going to be a really good tractor for you. Is the Tach. meter working in the picture or is the tractor off? With your light i think it may be a corroded wire from sitting outside and seeing some use in abusive locations. Glad to see it has an owner who will take good care of it and make sure it lasts a long long time. :thumbsup:

 

[ducks13]

The tractor was turned off when the pictures were taken. I haven't found anything that looks like it could be causing the problem with the lights but I haven't really gotten to any of the wiring. I suspect the fuse panel comes out and that the problem is behind there. I figure getting fresh fluids, filters etc. comes first.

 

[RoyJackson]

I can't be sure from the pix, but the rear wheels' wider position is with the
valves inboard. If they use the same R4s as my 4300s have, the wider
position in the rear will gain you 3/4" overall width. For the fronts, don't
bother as your front axle pivots anyway.

Boy, must not be much offset on the rims used for R-4s. I got an easy 4" or so when I turned my rims (Turfs).
They went from what is shown in the first pic to what is shown in the 2nd pic.

So, 3/4's on an inch isn't really worth the work. Not going to be much clearance for chains...

 

[hanson1999]

i'm guessing you have a 3/4 offset difference, which is a inch and a half when you flip them, which does make a big difference.

Three inches total is huge in the whole picture. Well worth the work of flipping.

my 3320 with r4 i'm guessing is about that same distance, and its night and day from skinny to wide position.

 

[dfkrug]

i'm guessing you have a 3/4 offset difference, which is a inch and a half when you flip them, which does make a big difference.

Three inches total is huge in the whole picture. Well worth the work of flipping.

my 3320 with r4 i'm guessing is about that same distance, and its night and day from skinny to wide position.

I will try to be clearer.

It is just short of 27" between the sidewalls of the 2 tires on my 2000
4300. It is just short of 28" between the sidewalls of my 2001 4300. Both
have 15" wide R4s, and the latter has the wheels reversed. I would call the
width difference gained by flipping the wheels to be between 3/4" and
1" total. Say 7/8". The last time I measured this, I did it from below, so the
tires may have been a tiny bit bulged out at the bottom, and hence the
3/4" number.

I DO think it is worth flipping them, even for this small gain since the
rear track is very narrow, and I need everything I can get to fit my
backhoes on there. I even trimmed the foot rests of the last one to
clear the tires. R1s would have been much nicer to have.

I have seen the 3x20 tires/wheels at the dealers and shows, and they
look the same. I assume the 4410 uses the same wheels/tires, too.

 

[Interlaux]

Duck - good job man!! most excellent - you will (DO) love that baby

paid $13,500 for my 4610 1 1/2 years ago - it had 1440 hours - just busted 2k!!

That thing will go forever. - fluids,clean air, plenty a grease a sensor here and there.

It maybe, your smile when you first get on, won't last that long

don't know mines only lasted 1 1/2 yrs:thumbsup:

 

[ducks13]

Thanks Inter, I am enjoying it. Got everthing spayed/wipped down with WD-40 and it looks like an almost new tractor.