4707

[daugen]

makes sense that derating gives you longer life
two things stuck out for me, did I need either more hydraulic power or more pto power
to drive a big mower. I didn't. So 70/75 was plenty.

15 foot batwings are popular and a good reason for needing more power in heavy going.
Sounds like perfect power as is for a 12 footer.

To pull a 15-foot batwing mower through heavy grass, a tractor typically needs
between 85 and 120 PTO horsepower (HP) to maintain a reasonable ground speed without bogging down. While many 15-foot models have a manufacturer-rated minimum requirement of 50–60 PTO HP, this is generally considered the absolute minimum for light maintenance clipping; heavy, thick, or tall grass demands significantly more power.

 

[EddieWalker]

If I mowed more often, I could probably get by with a 15-foot batwing, but I really didn't want to pay for a 15-foot batwing. I paid $13,000 for the 12-foot batwing, and that was more then I wanted to spend.

 

[Bighat!]

My theory on the jerky clutch. The clutch pedal is just a sensor, just like the forward and reverse shifter(if you pull up on it you can slowly release it like the pedal). The clutch is completely controlled electronically by solenoids. The reverse lever and the clutch pedal just sends a signal to it. Problem is the solenoids only work at their speed. So when you push clutch in to do something like hooking up a bucket or pallet..or whatever, when you go to re-engage it you believe the clutch pedal level is where the clutch is, but every time you push in the pedal the solenoids completely disengage the clutch but as you re-engage slowly the solenoids are catching up to you but you feel you need to let more clutch out, by the time it catches up to you its catching to quick. Clutch by wire is stupid.

I see alot of people with the clutch problem. Had the same thing until I spoke with an Agco Rep said I needed to have the latest updates in software and do a clutch and transmission calibration. My dealer done this, which was late summer of last year, the clutch is still smooth. All this new stuff is programed and believe it or not they can fix somethings just by reprograming. All I can say is call you dealer and ask them about it. If they don't know about it they will have to learn if they want to fix anything. The dealer that fixed mine is the oldest Massey dealer in the State of Ohio. They been around a while. Good luck.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

I see alot of people with the clutch problem. Had the same thing until I spoke with an Agco Rep said I needed to have the latest updates in software and do a clutch and transmission calibration. My dealer done this, which was late summer of last year, the clutch is still smooth. All this new stuff is programed and believe it or not they can fix somethings just by reprograming. All I can say is call you dealer and ask them about it. If they don't know about it they will have to learn if they want to fix anything. The dealer that fixed mine is the oldest Massey dealer in the State of Ohio. They been around a while. Good luck.

I called my service guy on the way home, who I’ve talked about this a bunch with. He said there is no specific update that he knows and until he hooks to it he won’t know if there is any update for it. Mine is a 2023 bought in December of 2023. Warranty is out. I can’t fit it on my equipment trailer, too wide, and for him to bring the laptop out it’s $100 for service call and $100 an hour from the time he leaves til he gets back to the shop. Good chance my 5711 will have the updated software. I hate **** I can’t fix. Montgomery tractor in Flemingsburg ky. Not bad people but you ain’t getting any breaks on an out of warranty tractor or help with parts even if it was a long standing conversation. If I knew there was an update I’d pay. But something is telling me there isn’t. Ag equipment is the wost with service, I don’t have much issue with my kubota construction equipment. They’ve helped with stuff outside of warranty, but it is a different dealer.

 

[daugen]

If I mowed more often, I could probably get by with a 15-foot batwing, but I really didn't want to pay for a 15-foot batwing. I paid $13,000 for the 12-foot batwing, and that was more then I wanted to spend.

most of us in this age group can remember buying a new car for less than that.
when I bought my 4707 after a lot of research I thought it was the highest value high quality tractor I could afford.
Do I wish I could have afforded a Kubota M5 or M6?
yes.
or a JD series 6.
then you go and price one and your eyes get big.

at the time I had a small farm in a farming town in a farming community with every tractor color represented,
Beaufort Co NC. The Massey Dealer was small, the owner farmed locally, but old, and dead honest.
some of their wiring work was sloppy, had to do do-overs. But when you have a good local dealer
you can really take your pick. That glass sunroof did it for me, the huge radials, the comfy seat. And the quiet.
plus a fully modern dash with good info.
loaded out the door for 50k. Two years later when I got sick I sold it for 45k to a local landscaper who
thought he had won the lottery.

that dealer only tech stuff is a real worry. JD just lost the big rights lawsuit so I'm hoping
manufacturers will be compelled, by marketing and money..., to include easier access diagnostics.
how about an industry standard OBDB port?
how about marketing your tractor as easy to work on?

pretty sure dealer service departments would object loudly
But this was a very modern high tech tractor for AGCO,
mine was built in China by mostly robots so I'd expect at least a little
proprietary electronics.

your cows don't care that your dealer is backed up a week.
They want to get fed now, as in right now....
why you always need spare tractors if you do this for a living

 

[EddieWalker]

It's almost mowing time for the Massey. I'm doing the last of my clean up stuff with it now, and I'll hook up the batwing in a week or two. I'm not in a rush, but I'm wanting to get started on mowing the land.

Last weekend I cleaned up all around my hay ring. The 4707 is great for this. I listen to music, stay comfortable in the cab, and in no time, it's all cleaned up. For the last few years I've been building up a big pile of the old hay that's been turning into compost.