4wd tractor vs 2wd

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Ad in today's local paper...........new Mahindra 4025.......2WD, 41 horsepower with loader.................Cash Price.....$14,500
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   / 4wd tractor vs 2wd #132  
No I don't have the money to afford a tractor right now, but I don't want to pay on the thing for 6 years either, along with several other things. I would prefer to make a good down payment of about $3,000.00 on a $12,000.00 tractor, and try paying it off asap, then buy more of the implements I need. Having only one thing I owe money on at a time works best for me, but not always.Running up credit can make you a slave to your needs. I have good credit, I don't want to run that in the ground. I don't know a person can take enough advice, and experienced imput, but depending on what you are really looking for, everyone's experienced advice won't be put to use. It won't be applicable. I agree in that video of the horse farmer, he may have done better with ag tires. He also said, that he was recommended to get 2wd by several of this friends. A larger tractor that was only 2wd, with ag tires, properly ballasted may have severed him better that the 4wd. When you add 4wd, you change the ballast properties of a lot of tractors original design. Ballasting a 4wd tractor is important for it to work to it's tractor potential. Ag tires would have helped him quite a bit I believe.
 
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Not every experienced tractor operator had good advice. Take not of that.
 
   / 4wd tractor vs 2wd #135  
Not every tractor operator has good advice, take not of that . sometimes my typing suffers.
 
   / 4wd tractor vs 2wd #137  
So Shannon back to the 2x4 wheel drive thing. Do you have a friend or neighbor that has a 4x drive that you can help for a day or two in different conditions? You could just cycle the 4x off and on and see if it makes a difference for you. I know it does for me but then I am only in the snow when I am not in the mud and sand. I would have been stuck several times today hauling heavy loader loads if not for the 4x and that is with 4 big rear tires pushing and a backhoe holding a log for ballast.
Rick
 
   / 4wd tractor vs 2wd #138  
you should take notice of all the 4 wheel drive backhoes working in your area.If you have farmers in your area,look at their tractors as well.This will prove the firm belief in 4 wheel drive over 2wheel drive.Here in southern Illinois our farmers and construction companies/operators have used them for so long we could not imagine not having 4wd on any of our equipment.On most construction jobs here they require/request 4wd backhoes. In my 35 years as a heavy equipment operator I have never heard one person say they regretted having 4wd, operator or farmer. NEVER.
 
   / 4wd tractor vs 2wd #139  
I live in Southern West Virginia. I live real close to the Hatfield and McCoy Trails. I have done quite a bit off roading, on ATV's, UTV's, pickup trucks, jeeps, etc.. Anyways, 4wd is real profitable in these conditions, and differential lock, etc.. I used to do contracting construction, Operated a 4wd John Deere Backhoe.I believe it was the J model. 4wd probably helped with the backhoe, but it has a more evenly ballanced weight between the front, and rear axles. So, the 4wd drive advantage works better on a backhoe than on a lot of tractors. Most tractors, as I understand it, especially the heavy rear, light front end designs, can be improperly ballasted just by the addition of the weight of the 4wd front axle , and front wheels. Taking weight off the rear, as the tractor was designed for. I have noticed that this takes a particular % of the weight off of the rear, transfering it to the front. Given the much larger tire size of the rear, vs the front on most tractors. Front wheel assist, is not 4wd of equal tire sizes like with a truck, or atv. Notice how a pickup truck's rear end can easily spin, even in 4wd, but doesn't obtain much traction, and propel the vehicle forward very efficiently. Backhoes have additional weight added to their front's in a lot of newer Backhoes. Apparently weight was needed to better balance the machine so that it would be more effective in it's 4wd design, with the frontend loader. A lot of standard tractor designs, with light front ends, with light front end axles in 2wd models, I believe were designed to be more efficient in 2wd versions vs 4wd versions, because of the weight transfer towards being over the rear axle. I believe this is why tractors tended to raise up in the front, and would need weights added to prevent this in certain applications. Eventually they incorporated the ROPS. As you might see in a photo of a tractor that has flipped back, because of the design of a tractor, wherein they started putting the ROPs because of tractor rollovers,and that how the weight of the machine rolls front over rear, on the axis of the rear axle, and rear tires. Two large rear ag tires is all I understand is needed, so long as the front of the tractor is light enough, and has just enough weight on it to steer, and not raise up too much. The 2 large rear tires is all the pulling wheel power that is needed to obtain traction, and plow, unless the tractor isn't designed this way. Newer tractors are becoming more, and more like two rear ends, instead of a rear, and a front end. I believe there is a good reason why it is called front wheel assist instead of 4 Wheel Drive..
 
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I also understand that in the design of a tractor, the rear tires are the drive wheels. I believe also that if 4 wheels are to work of real benefit in pulling, they have to evenly distribute the weight of the machine,and have equal power running to them,equal gearing, and equal tire sizes. If you take a tractor with large rear tires, and small front tires, and the tractor has front wheel assist, the tractor has to be properly ballasted, or it won't be a tractor. Because, the main drive wheels, the rears, won't be taking the % of the weight, and the balance of the weight of the tractor will be placing too much on the small front wheels, and the full effects of the tractor won't be put to as effective of use. I am not saying front wheel assist doesn't help, but if it does work, it has to be properly ballasted, or balanced, because you might get 4 wheels pulling, but won't have a good pull tractor, if it isn't ballasted properly. I'm looking for a good pull tractor, and front wheel assist takes some work to get it ballasted properly, so that it will pull good. It might get a little better traction in muddy conditions, but in most normal conditions, it probably won't be pulling as well as a properly ballaseted 2wd. I like watching plow days, and watching antique tractors plow, that are only 2 wd, with wheel weights pull 2,3,4,5,7 furrow plows, with only 2 drive wheels pulling.
 
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