50 hour fluid change

[oldpilgrim]

That's a definite possiblity. I'm 68 years old but I never worked as a regular mechanic. I've done all my own repairs, completely overhauled probably a dozen engines and done many groundup car restorations, so I've changed more than a few, but I'll yield to your experience.

I'm just saying I never had much luck with a chain.

 

[freewookie]

I found one of these with a big cheater bar worked the best for me.

http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/KDT-3529.html

 

[Fuggley]

.... I'm just saying I never had much luck with a chain.

Hey Pilgrim, I have no better luck with a chain over any other strap wrench either. I don't have a PHD in filter removal but to me it's all in the technique.... go slow... build pressure and hold to allow time for the rubber seal to give.
If that don't work I go into a rage and start cursin' and throwing stuff... then jab something through it and beat it off with whatever is laying around on the bench. ..... then go bandage up my knuckles and have a few stiff drinks.

 

[oldpilgrim]

when I crush one with the chain, then I drive a screw driver thru it and tear the can up with that. Then there's nothing but a mess of twisted sharp shards of metal still connected to the engine.

Then I have to take a punch and a hammer to the filter base, trying to twist it off without damaging the mount.

I hate tight filters.

 

[Buggs67]

One drain on the square mid-mounted transmission (or on the left side if you have the mid PTO installed) and two drains, one on each inboard side of the bull gear axle housing. You will want a chain wrench or be prepared to pound in a screwdriver into the big hydro filter on the righthand side. The oil filter wrench you used on engine oil filter works fine on the HST filter located behind the fuel tank on the lefthand side. Pour in about 11 gallons and start checking the level every half gallon after that.

Rothenberger makes a nice chain wrench Rothenberger 70235 Chain Wrench, Reversible, 4" - Pipe Wrenches - Amazon.com

I used this wrench Chain Wrench - 20". It was cheep and I could put an extension on it and use my breaker bar. I put it on the bottom of the filter and it crushed it a little but it didn't leak oil all over.

To catch the oil I used a plastic concrete mixing tub. I got mine at a garage sale ($5) but Lowes/HD has them. It allows you to have multiple drains open at once and catch all the oil. My Hyd fluid was pretty clean and not too much gunk on the magnetic plug.

 

[grm61]

This has been debated pretty heavily. I only changed filters as was the recommendation of my dealer, with exception of the engine oil.

Thank you all for posting these experiences. I'm at 43 hrs on my NX4510. Haven't decided whether I'll do a complete fluid change at 50, but you can bet I'll be thinking about these posts when I do!

This has been beaten to death in other threads.. it is a grey area in the books.

I serviced my hydro at 52 hrs, I ran the machine around a bit before I dumped the oil to get things stirred up....I poured the oil back into the buckets the new hydro oil came in...then the oil sat in my shed for about three or four weeks before I took the oil to the recycle place to get rid of it.

This is what settled out of the oil during that time period FWIW

 

[arrow]

I suspect that I've worked on many more machines than you have.

So you think beating your chest helps with Old Pilgrims dilemma with a chain wrench? I'm wondering why with all of your experience you did not offer tips as to how to properly use a chain wrench on an oil filter? Or better yet, how a Channel Loc 15" adjustable oil filter wrench is so much easier to use than a chain wrench and if I were doing such things professionally how that would be the tool of choice. It was always my go to filter removal tool.

 

[grm61]

OK guys, this will solve your filter removal issues....

This is much lighter and easier to use than a chain wrench, is very strong, and crushes less than a chain wrench as the strap has a little give and grips filters very well even if the filter gives a bit where the jaw is pressing into it, just back off a little and pull the strap tight and keep going.

I originally bought this when I was working on concrete trucks to get the hydraulic filters off, they get cooked on ,and can be very very hard to break loose, worked great on my DK45
This is a real tool, specifically for filters in industrial applications, and will do the job properly....no pounding screwdrivers through filters etc.

The one I have, I used commercially for several years on heavy equipment, and never came across a filter I could not remove....

Made by Blue Point...Part number YA826A

 

[murphy1244]

OK guys, this will solve your filter removal issues....

This is much lighter and easier to use than a chain wrench, is very strong, and crushes less than a chain wrench as the strap has a little give and grips filters very well even if the filter gives a bit where the jaw is pressing into it, just back off a little and pull the strap tight and keep going.

I originally bought this when I was working on concrete trucks to get the hydraulic filters off, they get cooked on ,and can be very very hard to break loose, worked great on my DK45
This is a real tool, specifically for filters in industrial applications, and will do the job properly....no pounding screwdrivers through filters etc.

The one I have, I used commercially for several years on heavy equipment, and never came across a filter I could not remove....

Made by Blue Point...Part number YA826A

View attachment 396929View attachment 396930

I bought one from sears

 

[murphy1244]

OK guys, this will solve your filter removal issues....

This is much lighter and easier to use than a chain wrench, is very strong, and crushes less than a chain wrench as the strap has a little give and grips filters very well even if the filter gives a bit where the jaw is pressing into it, just back off a little and pull the strap tight and keep going.

I originally bought this when I was working on concrete trucks to get the hydraulic filters off, they get cooked on ,and can be very very hard to break loose, worked great on my DK45
This is a real tool, specifically for filters in industrial applications, and will do the job properly....no pounding screwdrivers through filters etc.

The one I have, I used commercially for several years on heavy equipment, and never came across a filter I could not remove....

Made by Blue Point...Part number YA826A

View attachment 396929View attachment 396930

I bought one from sears