Comparison 5075E VS 4707

[Gary027]

Hi everyone new member and first time posting. I looked at and drove a new Massey 4707 and 5075E today. I really liked the 4707 compared to the 5075E. Any input on the pros and cons between these two machines would be much appreciated. I have a small 30 acre farm in southwest VA. with steep hills, some areas are rocky, plan to hay some sections with a 4x4 round bailer and bush hog what I can’t hay, use FEL to remove some of the rocks out of the fields to make them hay or bush hog friendlier. Do you think a 75 hp tractor will be adequate to safely accomplish the tasks that I mentioned above? I am currently only bush hogging with a John Deere 4310. This is a huge step up for me. I have never ran a bailer before and I have heard the horror stories of tractors running away on hill sides while bailing and bush hogging. Just want to get some opinions before I make a big purchase. I am really leaning towards 4707 because of the options compared to the 5075E.
I attached the quote from the Massey dealer. What are your thoughts on price? Thanks in advance.

 

[mo1]

The 4707 is a larger tractor than the 5075E, and more comparable in features and size to the 5075M than the 5075E. $57k is also noticeably more than a cabbed MFWD 5075E with a loader goes for around here, they are a little under $50k. On the other end of the feature spectrum, a 5075E 2wd open station "hay tractor" with a loader is closer to $30k. I have one of those and like it as it is a very handy, maneuverable machine and more capable than you would think given its relative simplicity.

Massey Ferguson is a brand that used to be popular but has all but disappeared many places. There are a whopping two dealers within 150 miles of me and the closest one is technically a MF dealer but also sells New Holland and nearly all of what they sell is New Holland. Contrast that to there being about two dozen Deere dealers in that 150 mile radius with over a hundred 5Es in stock.

How much power you need mainly depends on what you are using to cut hay. 75 HP can run a disc mower conditioner in the 9 foot range, which is on the smaller end of the size range for those but you are haying no more than 30 acres so it should be plenty large. It will also run about any other kind of cutter as they take less power than a disc mower conditioner. It will run a 4x4 baler without trouble, we ran a 4x6 with an 80 HP tractor with no trouble whatsoever. I think you are probably in the right size/power range with a 75 HP unit, particularly if you end up getting or haying more ground in the future. I wouldn't go larger with only 30 acres or you will end up with trying to do the jobs than require more maneuverability with too large of a tractor and being unhappy. I have about 80 acres, 65 of which are hay fields, and didn't get a larger unit for that very reason.

 

[Doughknob]

For bRush hogging either is OK. But i'd buy the heavier tractor. I find i want for more weight on the rear end much more than more power.

 

[mo1]

For bRush hogging either is OK. But i'd buy the heavier tractor. I find i want for more weight on the rear end much more than more power.

I see that you have a Bobcat CT4045 in your signature, which is a competitor to the Deere 4044 compact and "the next size down" from a 3 cylinder 5E. However, it's a big step up from a compact to a small utility tractor in weight and capability. All of these units discussed here are a lot heavier and stouter than a compact. A 2wd 5E is about half again as heavy as the Bobcat and an MFWD unit is close to twice the weight before a loader or any ballast. The MF 4707 with MFWD and a cab is close to three times as heavy as it weighs almost 9000 pounds without a loader or fluid in the tires. You can also add a lot of ballast to a utility tractor compared to a compact, the tires are larger and hold more fluid and they can support much more weight on the 3 point for ballast as well. I would strongly recommend the original poster to get ag (R1) tires and fill the rears with fluid no matter which tractor he gets. However, he doesn't absolutely need to get a tractor that weighs 13,000 lbs or so with a loader and fluid filled tires to run a 4x4 round baler, any of the utility tractors mentioned here will do that just fine.

 

[oosik]

My example. I have a Kubota M6040. 62 engine HP - 55 PTO HP. But what really gets the job done - weight. I have a HD grapple on the FEL - Rim Guard in the rear tires - Rhino rear blade @ 1050#. Total tractor weight - 10,100#.

I live on 80 acres in an area called the Channeled Scablands. Very open - fields of bunch grass - open stands of Ponderosa pines. I have no problems accessing most all areas on my property with this tractor.

 

[ssgshelton71]

Buy the 4707, you will be very happy with all the extra features it has. Great power and transmission. I’ve had my 4707 4x4 cab for two years and enjoy it. The options it has, you’d have to go to a jd 5100 series to get them. The rear fender lift buttons for the 3pt are a huge help. I even had mine tuned with updated software and it now is closer to 95-100hp.

 

[jaytea56]

which software did you use to increase hp ? thanks