58 MPG by 2032

[logixjock]

My favorite of all drivers is the “I do not, never, ever pass on a two lane highway”. So you are driving down a country road and come upon a train of vehicles, following the local farmer on his tractor moving from field to field on his tractor. I have seen it get so bad the farmer would pull off on the shoulder of the road to get the idiots from being behind him

I'm an old man. My father drilled it into my young (thick) skull that when roading a piece of equipment between fields that it was my responsibility to keep track of how many cars were lined up behind me and pull over when there got to be more than 3 or 4 piled up. Everything is cash rented now so no more moving equipment around, but I still believe he had the right way of it.

 

[Gator6x4]

I'm an old man. My father drilled it into my young (thick) skull that when roading a piece of equipment between fields that it was my responsibility to keep track of how many cars were lined up behind me and pull over when there got to be more than 3 or 4 piled up. Everything is cash rented now so no more moving equipment around, but I still believe he had the right way of it.

So he taught you to look after the idiots in the automobiles with their phobia of not passing on a two lane road. Farmers have it tough when trying to move from field to field with equipment. Many a farmer has been struck from behind while driving a tractor on the highway. The excuse is always the same, but..but..I didn’t see him.

 

[WinterDeere]

I think a lot of “Fast Drivers” who like to drive fast do not know or realize the increased and enhanced dangers they are facing by traveling 80 miles per hour.

At 80 miles per hour one is moving forward in a mass of metal at 117.33 feet per second. 80 miles per hour = 80 × 1.466666666675 = 117.33 or 117.333333334 feet per second.
A football field is one hundred yards or 360 feet from end zone to end zone. 360 divided by 117.33 is 3.06. So it takes 3.06 seconds to Travel the length of a football field when traveling at 80 miles per hour.

The normal drivers reaction time is 3/4 seconds. So let’s look at what the experts have to say.

Time to Stop Your Car​

The table below shows the distances it takes an average car to come to a stop on dry pavement from different speeds, including the distance traveled for just one second of perception and reaction time:

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Speed​	Perception/Reaction Distance​	Braking Distance​	Overal Stopping Distance​	Equal to Approx Number of Car Lengths (@15 feet)​
30 mph​	44 feet​	45 feet​	89 feet​	6​
40 mph​	59 feet​	80 feet​	139 feet​	9​
50 mph​	73 feet​	125 feet​	198 feet​	14​
60 mph​	88 feet​	180 feet​	268 feet​	18​
70 mph​	103 feet​	245 feet​	348 feet​	23​
80mph​	117 feet​	320 feet​	439 feet​	29​

So the experts say if you are traveling 80 miles per hour on a highway and see an obstruction a football field away, you are going to hit it.

This is something that has always been of interest to me. My car has a 60 mph braking distance of 106 ft, nearly half what your table shows, but a tri-axle dump truck fully loaded from our quarry has a braking distance nearly 4x that, or 400 ft at 55 mph [1]. For this reason, some countries (eg. Germany) have different speed limits for different vehicle types, but we stupidly limit a Ferrari to the same speed limits as a semi truck. More sensible would be to have two or three categories of vehicle with different speed limits, proportional to their total stopping distance (reaction + braking).


[1] - Semi Trucks & Tri-Axle Dump Trucks: Safe Stopping Distances.

 

[scootr]

I recently bought a low miles reworked VW emission cars for running errands etc. It's a 2014 beetle with a 2L turbo diesel 6 spd stick. Still gets 50-60 mpg. 40 in town if you drive it easy. Love the retro bug and the mpg.

 

[boatmoter]

58 MPG​

Seeking to cut greenhouse gas emissions, the B i d e n administration has issued a proposal directing automakers to raise the fuel economy of their vehicles to a fleet-wide average of 58 miles per gallon by 2032. The proposed rules by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration would be applicable starting in model year 2027, while new fuel efficiency standards for heavy-duty pickup trucks and vans would rise 10% annually. The NHTSA also said it would try to align regulations with the Environmental Protection Agency's proposed vehicle emissions reductions. Many U.S. automakers are already in the middle of electrifying their fleets, but any changes could impact the plans of Ford (F), General Motors (GM) and Stellantis (STLA)

from what we have seen from the 60's when gas was 18 cents a gallon and we were driving gas guzzlers, the price of gas has gone way up as cars have increased MPG. as time goes on cars will be getting great gas mileage and they will be selling gas by the quart on the shelves of convenient stores for $10 bucks. the less fuel the oil company's sell,the higher the price goes to make up for the loss in sale's

 

[boatmoter]

I recently bought a low miles reworked VW emission cars for running errands etc. It's a 2014 beetle with a 2L turbo diesel 6 spd stick. Still gets 50-60 mpg. 40 in town if you drive it easy. Love the retro bug and the mpg.

in the late 80's I bought a VW Rabbit,Diesel, it got 50 mpg and went from 0 - 60 in 3.5 weeks,without the air on.. with the turbo on that it should have plenty of power

 

[Al Kramer]

Good grief people. Some of you don’t know the difference between MPH and MPG! BTW, there are already hybrids that get 58 MPG. Prius and ioniq are 2.

 

[scootr]

in the late 80's I bought a VW Rabbit,Diesel, it got 50 mpg and went from 0 - 60 in 3.5 weeks,without the air on.. with the turbo on that it should have plenty of power

The Beetle makes pretty good torque down low. Shift point is 1500 rpms for optimum fuel mileage. It wakes up nicely if you rev it up but mpg suffers.
I knew a guy that put a turbo on a diesel Rabbit in the 80s. That thing was a regular rally car lol. You can say diesels stink but then its burning 50% less fuel than the average car or truck.

 

[Dennis59]

58 MPG​

Seeking to cut greenhouse gas emissions, the B i d e n administration has issued a proposal directing automakers to raise the fuel economy of their vehicles to a fleet-wide average of 58 miles per gallon by 2032. The proposed rules by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration would be applicable starting in model year 2027, while new fuel efficiency standards for heavy-duty pickup trucks and vans would rise 10% annually. The NHTSA also said it would try to align regulations with the Environmental Protection Agency's proposed vehicle emissions reductions. Many U.S. automakers are already in the middle of electrifying their fleets, but any changes could impact the plans of Ford (F), General Motors (GM) and Stellantis (STLA)

I remember when this same topic was discussed 30-40 years ago. In stead of 58mpg it was @ 30. and everyone said the same thing that it was impossible. That was when the cars from the big 3 were averaging @ 15mpg. With the target set it pushes the car companies to look for ways to improve efficacy and still meet the market needs. Do anyone out there want to go back ware a standard passenger car only got 15mpg? I would love to have a pickup that met my needs and saved me over 50% at the gas pump.

 

[Ridersupfarm]

Just think how much fuel would be saved if Big Rigs were limited to 65 mph…. !?

and Kerry and Buttajudge weren't flying all over in private jets