They don't really care what it is down here. Lawn guys get nailed about the first of May each year. Rest get it during the rest of the year. As the closest weigh station is south of us in the Keys, the local DOT cops stop whatever they want to. Dump trucks with trailers, Duallys with tree trailers and tractor-trailers are by far their favorites. But they also go after trash haulers and people with enclosed trailers. They've pulled out and checked me too.
i work with a kid who has his dually f350 pass. plated here in NY. i also know other people who comm. plate 1/2 tons. i see no reason into why people think they need comm plates when their weight does not justify it. we all know there are those people who just have an f350 or f450 to pull their ego around, and their weight legally demands comm plates.
guess what?? i live in NY, just outside albany; so i am quite familiar with the NY DOT rules and regs. i cant imagine how i am committing fraud when i have passenger plates on a SRW truck
also, anyone who hauls a race car, horses, or a hobby that may make them any kind of prize money "techically" has to have a DOT number, as the truck is being used to make money, at least when pulling trailer with said item on board.
since when did a state trooper, who is not a DOT cop become an expert in identifing overloaded trailers? no time recently in my book....
None of my trucks door stickers or titles have the empty weight listed.
). same with race car guys; some think they can register a freightliner truck as non-commercial or RV, haul a 53 triaxle race trailer, and no rules apply to them ...there IS a double standard between commercial/non-commecialNone of my trucks door stickers or titles have the empty weight listed.
Just because some do it illegally, doesn't mean they won't get caught. Know of any 3500/350 series trucks that weigh under 5500 lbs? Heck, a 2009 Ford F150 supercab can weigh over 5000. An F250 can exceed the 5500 limit with no problem.guess what?? i live in NY, just outside albany; so i am quite familiar with the NY DOT rules and regs. i cant imagine how i am committing fraud when i have passenger plates on a SRW truck
And no, anyone in NY with a pickup and car trailer is NOT fair game for DOT; where do you get this stuff? If its not used for commercial purpsoes, DOT does not want to be bothered with you. you are not held to the same regulations as a commercial carrier (hours of service, log books, chaining, weights/axle). if that was the case, 99% of people who haul cars on a car trailer would be red tagged for not having it secured properly, or would be overweight on some axle combination. also, anyone who hauls a race car, horses, or a hobby that may make them any kind of prize money "techically" has to have a DOT number, as the truck is being used to make money, at least when pulling trailer with said item on board.
Right now it seems DOT has it out for the landscapers, whom most all seem to never tied anything down, and pull the biggest POS trailers out there. I have passed several NE checkpoints with big signs specifically saying "NO PICKUPS"
since when did a state trooper, who is not a DOT cop become an expert in identifing overloaded trailers? no time recently in my book....
as previously stated, i do heavy haul trucking (overweight, oversize, over-length) on a daily basis, and am a constant target for DOT. i am quite familiar with DOT regs. its amazing that some people who haul a happy homeowner CUT behind a 1/2 ton on a 7000lb car trailer all of a sudden become DOT experts b/c they think theyre big-time truckers.
In Florida, you wouldn't get any vehicle insurance from Allstate with the service truck body on a 1 ton except for Commercial. Same applies to any F-450 or 4500 series even if a pickup bed is installed. Florida DOT does pull over the Semi towing rigs if there is no RV trailer attached. I do agree that the big brick RVs should have to get a Class B with passenger endorsement as for all purposes, they are driving a bus.you can register a pickup truck in NY for any weight you want to. your registration fee corresponds to that weight. i know of poeple registering 1-ton dodges (late 90's) for , 35klbw so they can legally pull JD 650 foresty dozers on triaxle trailers. its wayyyy over GVW or whatever, but the state does not care, its only about $$$. there're reg fees are much higher, but thats all the state cares about.
why cant i have a 1-ton, diesel powered, non-commercial service truck? maybe i enjoy tinkering with older dodges (i have 5), maybe i like having a convenient place for storing tools, chainsaws, fuel, straps, etc, maybe i like having a heavy duty truck for towing my personal trailer around, maybe i like having a dirt-simple engine/trans/truck that does not have controllers/computers/$40k price tags? Nothing illegal in that.......
as for horse show people: it seems a majority of them (and i am NOT a horse guy, several in my family are) tend to have big pickup trucks/big trailers/"motorhomes"/ "private" semi trucks etc. these are all considered money making vehicles, since they are 99% of the time showing horses in an attempt ot win prize money or some type of prize. sometimes, the driver of said truck is not "classed" to drive the truck they are driving (
i have seen this happen, and had to go finish the trip b/c i have a class A). horse people seem to have a different set of rules they they adhere to, but is not legal. ........just what i've seen..............
kinda like guys with HUGE bus-based RVs that dont need CDLs or air brake endorsements to drive (you know you've seen them-shouldnt be driving a civic, much less a 50klb bus "RV"
clearly, YMMV, as mine seems to from others. i have never registered a pickup as commercial in NY. i am pretty sure "downstate" NY has very diffent rules that "upstate" NY. also, i am NOT hauling for profit, so any commercial regulations do not apply to me
