A Great Day to be Plowing

[mark.r]

Robert, that does look like quite a load for that 3910/3930.

By the way, your daughter really knows how to handle that camcorder.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Robert, that does look like quite a load for that 3910/3930.

By the way, your daughter really knows how to handle that camcorder.

The tractor has enough power, but it is set up for vineyards so it has small rear tires and that hurts it for field work like this. In the vineyards it will pull that spreader just fine as the vineyards are solid ground.

My father was running the camera. Ava is only 3 so she likes to talk and doesn't realize I can't hear her yelling at me when I have my ear muffs on and the TN is at full throttle 200 yards away

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Well, I took the planter out the other day. It is an International 56 set on 32" spacing. I need different plates for my seed so I was only playing around to make sure the rest of the settings are correct. Fixed a couple things and as soon as the new plates arrive I will be set to plant.

 

[Oleozz]

Your ground looks dry!!!! We are up to 11 inches in about three weeks and could get another 2 inches tonight. In my 35 years on this place I have never seen it so wet.
You have a sweet looking planter. Is that a big vineyard in the background?
Thanks for the pics.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

The ground is dry in most places, wet in others. I am nervous about going to the back fields but the planter pulls fairly easy so I shouldn't have too much trouble (knock on wood).

The vineyards surrounding that field is 6 acres and 2 acres. The big vineyards are up on Rt 20.

 

[Renze]

I miss my big tractor The TN with 3-14 gets the job done but not as nice as the 7710-II with cab and 4-16. I have 34 acres plowed and need to do 6 more acres for sure (maybe more). I started discing today and went over 15 acres once so far. I am hoping my father finishes the other 19 acres for first pass as I am getting sore breaking the first pass.

I see you race that TN65 and 3x 14" plough pretty fast on the bumpy soil.. No wonder it hurts your back...
I bet that TN65 can handle that 4x 16" plough too, and get the same, or even greater working capacity at a lower (less bumpy) speed.

I plough with a 3x 16" reversible, with our Zetor 5245 which is 50 hp. I dont know if the build style of the TN65 is similar to that of the 5245, but with the 5245 i dont have any traction problems at all... Main problem is lifting that heavy bugger out of the ground... it weighs over a ton, hanging out far behind the rear axle...
In Holland, the common ploughing depth is about 10 to 11 inches. Most ploughs in North america are built for a working depths of 6 to 7 inches ?
I assume a TN65 will lift a 4 furrow as well... have you ever tried ?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

In order for my plow to turn the soil over well I need to move along a decent speed. If I go slow the furrows just stand on their side and the last furrow tends to fall back down in a lot of spots.

As for pulling the 4-16, there is no way my TN can pull the 4-16 (it can lift it as it is a semi mount) except in perfect soils. My soil is a heavy loam/clay and it can really tax the tractor in spots. I have a 4-14 3pt plow that I want to fix up and I would think I could pull that plow over my corn ground next year with the TN but not thru a sod. But then again I am hoping to have a 100 hp cab tractor next year with FWA, radial tires and air suspension seat.

The biggest problem I am having while operating a tractor isn't my back getting sore so much as I get pain shooting down my right leg to just below my knee. It hurts something terrible and I am going to ask my doctor about it when I see him on the 28th. I am thinking it is a nerve issue and hopefully a tractor with a decent cab where I can move my leg around more will help ease that problem if the doctor can't suggest something.

The way our weather has been acting I am just glad to have most of my corn done. It is raining again as I type. Luckily the weather has cooperated just enough for me to get most of my work done. I have plenty more to do though.

I would love to have a reversable plow and I almost had a nice 4-16 Oliver reversable plow (3pt mounted) to pull behind the 7710-II but someone bought it just before I found it. Who knows, maybe there is a nice reversable Kneverland (I can never remember how to spell their name) in my future if I wear out my current plows.

 

[JDeerekid]

Yes, they are basically the same thing. I could have hired the other outfit to come down and spread this lime with their trucks but I would rather give my money to my friend and keep it local. He is going to send one of his guys over this morning to get started.

If you don't mind my asking, is there any reason you went with pelletized lime? Around here pelletized lime is around $90 a ton compared to $27 a ton for powdered lime. The powder also absorbs into the ground faster as it doesn't have to break down first like pellets.

The nice thing about pellets is you can have your lime mixed with your fertilizer and do everything in one pass. But for my applications pellets are not a cost effective option.

That prices for pellitized lime and the ag lime are really cheap. I am in upstate NY and spread that stuff with one of those big floater trucks. The truck holds around 10ton. We get around $260 a ton for pelletized lime picked up, $30 a ton for ag lime picked up, $40 a ton spread for ag lime from store. If you order 40 ton or more we can have it farm dumped and you load with your tractor and we spread for aroud $30-32 a ton. I can spread around 300-400 ton a day with the big truck if someone it loading me. Also where do you get your ag lime from and what is the (env), being that cheap I would think it is on the low side, which means you have to put more on per acre.

As for the pelletized lime there is a big difference between that and ag lime. Pelletized is 100% env. You get 100% becuase it goes through a process where it is crushed very fine and then baked in to a pellet. This makes it easier to put down because it is in a pellet form and spreads through a reagular spreader. It cost more for the convienence but is only good for 1 year. This is because it raises your ph quickly last for around 6 - 8 months and thats it.
The ag lime is anywhere from 30 - 70% env depending where you get it from and how fine it is crushed. Ag lime is good for around 3 or more years, but it takes around 4 - 6 months to raise your PH. This is why for a spring seeding you should spread in fall and for fall seeding you shoud spread in spring.

Great pics of the plowing, disking, and lime spreading. Looks like lots of fun.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

That prices for pellitized lime and the ag lime are really cheap. I am in upstate NY and spread that stuff with one of those big floater trucks. The truck holds around 10ton. We get around $260 a ton for pelletized lime picked up, $30 a ton for ag lime picked up, $40 a ton spread for ag lime from store. If you order 40 ton or more we can have it farm dumped and you load with your tractor and we spread for aroud $30-32 a ton. I can spread around 300-400 ton a day with the big truck if someone it loading me. Also where do you get your ag lime from and what is the (env), being that cheap I would think it is on the low side, which means you have to put more on per acre.

As for the pelletized lime there is a big difference between that and ag lime. Pelletized is 100% env. You get 100% becuase it goes through a process where it is crushed very fine and then baked in to a pellet. This makes it easier to put down because it is in a pellet form and spreads through a reagular spreader. It cost more for the convienence but is only good for 1 year. This is because it raises your ph quickly last for around 6 - 8 months and thats it.
The ag lime is anywhere from 30 - 70% env depending where you get it from and how fine it is crushed. Ag lime is good for around 3 or more years, but it takes around 4 - 6 months to raise your PH. This is why for a spring seeding you should spread in fall and for fall seeding you shoud spread in spring.

Great pics of the plowing, disking, and lime spreading. Looks like lots of fun.

I will check the slips and see where it is coming from. I think it was LaFarge.

Howard lime in South Dayton quoted me $27/ ton delivered bulk if I had my own spreader and $36/ ton if they spread it with their floater trucks.

Where abouts in Upstate New York are you?

I wish I could have spread the lime last year but we just bought the property in March and had to wait for the soil test to come back to know where things sat.

 

[JDeerekid]

I will check the slips and see where it is coming from. I think it was LaFarge.

Howard lime in South Dayton quoted me $27/ ton delivered bulk if I had my own spreader and $36/ ton if they spread it with their floater trucks.

Where abouts in Upstate New York are you?

I wish I could have spread the lime last year but we just bought the property in March and had to wait for the soil test to come back to know where things sat.

I work in Fulton (if not familiar near Syracuse) at an Agway like store. My boss use to work at the store back when Agway owned it and ran the fertilizer blend plant. When they went under he started it under is own business name Lee's Agri-Tech. We mainly custom blend fertilzers for farmers, spread lime and fertilizer, sell seed, feed, and have retail stuff just like Agway. I have worked there going on 4 years. My boss has over 40 years of knowledge and experience in plant health and fertility. Everyone from my neck of the woods comes to him for advice.
I can't remember where we get or lime from now but we use to get it from walworth, ny, but like I said in last post the env was bad. It would cost more for the lime because you would have to put more on.