Keybal
Bronze Member
I also now realize that with the colder weather, the machine is in high idle until it warms up. Once it comes out of high idle, it does seem a little better
Abrupt stop on RTV
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You mentioned:
"I'm hoping the issues I'm having with Kubota are limited to the RTV but I'm not real happy with Kubota right now. I'm not going to even look at them for a new tractor. I'm going with either blue or green."
Was just wondering what issues?
Thanks
"I'm hoping the issues I'm having with Kubota are limited to the RTV but I'm not real happy with Kubota right now. I'm not going to even look at them for a new tractor. I'm going with either blue or green."
Was just wondering what issues?
Thanks
BeeFarmer
Well, I guess my issues with Kubota are primarily with product support, parts and accessories.
Now, all of my experiences with Kubota (post sale) have all been related to the RTV so I probably should give them a little slack since it is their first year with the machine.
I guess I was just a little hot under the collar since the part we're talking about in this thread has changed part #'s 4 times and now the part you get costs almost double than the original part number.
I've ordered accessories from the local dealer. After 4 months of the dealer not being able to get simple things like a bed liner and winch mount, I get frustrated.
Well, I guess my issues with Kubota are primarily with product support, parts and accessories.
Now, all of my experiences with Kubota (post sale) have all been related to the RTV so I probably should give them a little slack since it is their first year with the machine.
I guess I was just a little hot under the collar since the part we're talking about in this thread has changed part #'s 4 times and now the part you get costs almost double than the original part number.
I've ordered accessories from the local dealer. After 4 months of the dealer not being able to get simple things like a bed liner and winch mount, I get frustrated.
OK. I've tried this new part for a while. Here's what I've found.
When you're at lower RPM's in each range:
- Sometimes it acts pretty close to the original part.
- Other times it just seems to coast along and unless you apply the brake, you just don't know where you're going to stop.
When you're at higher RPM's in each range:
- When you let off the pedal, it takes several seconds for the pedal to return but then it reverts to that abruptness we currently encounter. Bad part here is since you don't know where/when that abruptness will occur, it's annoying and not as controllable. With the original part, you knew where in the pedal you needed to feather to stop the abruptness.
I've also found that I've lost a couple MPH at full RPM. Most noticeable in H range. I've lost about 3 MPH.
As already noted, it is a bit harder shifting. You definitely have to wait 5-10 extra seconds before attempting to shift if there's any pressure on the tranny. Even using the emergency brake, it's harder to shift with this part.
All that said and noting the installation guide provided (take off old, put on new), so far, I don't see a benefit to this part. I'm not saying it doesn't work but I'm thinking to get it to work better, there "may" be a need for adjusting linkages, springs or otherwise. Hopefully Kubota can/will provide this info in the future if adjustments can tweak this.
Bottom line... I'm going to go back to the original part. If anyone else wants to give this part a try, send me a PM. I will soon have one sitting on the shelf.
Vince (Keybal) - I haven't noticed the higher RPM when starting yet but agree it would be an issue. Your thoughts on my assessment?
When you're at lower RPM's in each range:
- Sometimes it acts pretty close to the original part.
- Other times it just seems to coast along and unless you apply the brake, you just don't know where you're going to stop.
When you're at higher RPM's in each range:
- When you let off the pedal, it takes several seconds for the pedal to return but then it reverts to that abruptness we currently encounter. Bad part here is since you don't know where/when that abruptness will occur, it's annoying and not as controllable. With the original part, you knew where in the pedal you needed to feather to stop the abruptness.
I've also found that I've lost a couple MPH at full RPM. Most noticeable in H range. I've lost about 3 MPH.
As already noted, it is a bit harder shifting. You definitely have to wait 5-10 extra seconds before attempting to shift if there's any pressure on the tranny. Even using the emergency brake, it's harder to shift with this part.
All that said and noting the installation guide provided (take off old, put on new), so far, I don't see a benefit to this part. I'm not saying it doesn't work but I'm thinking to get it to work better, there "may" be a need for adjusting linkages, springs or otherwise. Hopefully Kubota can/will provide this info in the future if adjustments can tweak this.
Bottom line... I'm going to go back to the original part. If anyone else wants to give this part a try, send me a PM. I will soon have one sitting on the shelf.
Vince (Keybal) - I haven't noticed the higher RPM when starting yet but agree it would be an issue. Your thoughts on my assessment?
Keybal
Bronze Member
BCZOOM - I've only had the RTV out one more time since I installed the part. I DON'T LIKE how the vehicle now operates. I' like, yourself, am going to remove the new part and revert back to the old operation. At least I know how the RTV will respond. Just another $37.00 life lesson
I checked via a couple sources.
For the new RTV's - they're all coming out with the speed control assembly installed from factory.
Bad news is that the one we have that gives the abrupt stop is now listed as a discontinued item and will not be available for purchase or replacement.
For the new RTV's - they're all coming out with the speed control assembly installed from factory.
Bad news is that the one we have that gives the abrupt stop is now listed as a discontinued item and will not be available for purchase or replacement.
Ricochet
Silver Member
That speed control lever has been installed at the factory since about 3 months ago. So, any new RTVs dealers get will have this new lever installed. The old has been discounted but might be available since not everybody likes the new one. We shall see.
whoodle
Silver Member
I drove two rtvs in the last three weeks at two different dealers, Both stopped abruptly. each dealer claimed to be selling them like hot cakes, but the rigs looked to have been siiting there for a while, each had at least four. I definitely want one, but I am toying with the tire issue. Are the worksite tires good on steep ledgy leafy worn terrain? I can get the rec model with dump also. In all your opions are these rigs old models?
KAGlass
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I just got my RTV on Monday. Put a couple of hours on the unit climbing hills. I have some steep hills and they were covered with wet leaves and mud. The worksite model did very well in two wheel drive, then put in 4WD and was surprised how well it did. It isn't going to climb like my Grissly ATV,but I think it will get the job done. The abrupt stopping issue, after running it a few hours I found myself already adapting to it and for controlling the load down hill ---nice !!!
whoodle,
Sorry, I can't help you on the age of the machine. Your dealer should have the paperwork on when they got it. Ask to see it. To give you a ballpark, my SN is in the 16000 range and I believe it was made in April. Newer SN's are probably in the 25000 range. Older or newer - with the exception of the cable to hold the seat from hitting the dash, everything I can think of on the newer ones is available for the older ones. (see the thread "RTV Updates").
For the tires, the HDWS (worksite) tires did fine for me in everything but mud. Snow may be an issue as well.
I've heard that dealers can choose what tires they want put on the machine when they order it. Not sure if you can get them swapped out for machines sitting on the lot. Many of us got aftermarket tires and/or rims. I'm currently running the Maxxis Bighorns and so far, they'll go through anything.
KAGlass - Welcome to TBN and congrats on your new RTV!!!
Sorry, I can't help you on the age of the machine. Your dealer should have the paperwork on when they got it. Ask to see it. To give you a ballpark, my SN is in the 16000 range and I believe it was made in April. Newer SN's are probably in the 25000 range. Older or newer - with the exception of the cable to hold the seat from hitting the dash, everything I can think of on the newer ones is available for the older ones. (see the thread "RTV Updates").
For the tires, the HDWS (worksite) tires did fine for me in everything but mud. Snow may be an issue as well.
I've heard that dealers can choose what tires they want put on the machine when they order it. Not sure if you can get them swapped out for machines sitting on the lot. Many of us got aftermarket tires and/or rims. I'm currently running the Maxxis Bighorns and so far, they'll go through anything.
KAGlass - Welcome to TBN and congrats on your new RTV!!!