Adding Hyd Remotes-Why so much price diff?

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That's another good idea!
 
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Just another pic to clarify my initial thought and question:
 

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   / Adding Hyd Remotes-Why so much price diff? #23  
In theory it should work.

But if it were me....I'd simply put a 45° fitting in one of the adapters or a different length close pipe nipple
 
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In theory it should work.

But if it were me....I'd simply put a 45° fitting in one of the adapters or a different length close pipe nipple
Looks like a 5" nipple would spread the large couplers and adapter fittings far enough to clear.
 
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Referring back to post #17 of this thread, and thinking about another thread discussing converting a regular four way three position valve to temporary float, it would seem that moving the two valve handles in opposite directions at the same time could result in temporary float of the attached cylinder. Right?

The valves would have to be moved in the correct direction, however, as the wrong direction would just provide pressure to both sides of the cylinder. Also, when shifted in the correct direction to achieve float, fluid would be going over the relief valve, so this is not something you would want to be doing for a prolonged period. (heat)

Disclaimer here: I realize this idea is a solution looking for a problem but found it somewhat interesting to think about. You can flame me if you like. :)
 
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"as the wrong direction would just provide pressure to both sides of the cylinder."

Providing pressure to both sides of the cylinder (base and and rod end) would cause the cylinder to extend but its force would be reduced by the area of the rod.

Example could be a 3" bore cylinder with a 1" rod: The 3" bore equates to 7.1 square inches of area and the 1" rod equates to 0.8 square inches leaving a net of 6.3. So at 2500 PSI the 3" cylinder would still produce nearly 16,000 lbs of force.
 
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"Prince is a premium brand" Are you saying that because of experience with the pros and cons of various brands or because the Prince costs twice as much?
I'm saying it, because Prince valves have been better made valves than the others I've used.

SR
 
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The Chief and Summit valve is just a rebranded Badestnost valve made in Bulgaria. I have the same exact valve on my homemade backhoe, two actually, and the 4 spool one cost me around $225 like 10 or 12 years ago. It's a very basic valve, so no load check valves and while being one of the cheapest valves available, they do have some nice quality and low internal leakage.

Another thing, the load check valves won't prevent you from lowering a load with the engine off. You can still do it just fine.


It's interesting that Northertool lists the Chief valve at more than twice the Summit valve while appearing to be the same exact rebranded valve as ptsg mentions above.
 
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It's interesting that Northertool lists the Chief valve at more than twice the Summit valve while appearing to be the same exact rebranded valve as ptsg mentions above.
It's indeed the same. You can even read on the small the serial number plate that it's made in Bulgaria. That's quite a profit margin right there. :)

On the other hand, the Summit one is a great price. The local hydraulic shop is selling the Badesnost P40 valve with 4 spools for €221 or $243.
 
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The rough castings on the Prince and Brand hydraulic component castings has always been a bit of a turnoff for me. I realize that external casting appearance is not necessarily an indication of interior quality but it just looks crude.
 

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