Hi 8226hammer.
Surely you see that this argument is not logical. For us to claim that there are widespread problems with this or any tractors PTO design a body of evidence needs to exist to draw a logical conclusion - and not the oppositte.
I'm willing to bet that more people come looking for forums when they have problems rather than when they do not.
Certainly the failures that your machine has experienced are not widespread on this forum as other problems (for example the Kioti loader cracks).
I'd be very interested to know what other information you have about others that have experienced problems. How many? Where the symptoms similar to yours?
To claim that Kubota "admitted" to you that these PTOs are likely to fail under some type of operating conditions, on the basis of ONE Kubota regional SALES rep is misleading. The company is many thousands of employees and the sales reps are generally not experts in PTO CAM design when offering you up a new model as an upgrade. That Kubota sales rep did not offer up the CAM replacement either as a solution so its not clear to me how informed he was.
I'm not suggesting to you that I know something magical that can explain things away. What I do know at this point is that I have not found any real evidence of a widespread problem with the PTO. If you have some then I'd be appreciative of it. I am simply examining the facts and refuting what I think are illogical concusions based on the same set of facts. In my view the facts are these:
- There have not been widespread PTO or other failures reported with the
L2800/
L3400 tractors on this forum.
- When approached, service departments don't seem to be aware of any widespread problem either. I've talked to several service departments.
- This series of tractors is selling extremly well and rototilling isn't exactly that wierd of an application. Many people rototill.
- Live PTOs have been around for a LONG time and have been used in all kinds of applications.
- ORCs (while better located) have been in use for a LONG time.
- Kubota has been making very reliable tractors for a LONG time. This series of tractors actually tends to use parts from their older models. The 3PT valve is from the
L3010. All of the technology here is pretty proven - nothing really novel IMHO.
It may be that you are right and that there is a widespread problem which has escaped this forum. I'd appreciate any information you have regarding this.
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