Ag or Industrial Tires

[chh]

My front tires are like the upper picture. The rears like the lower one.

 

[bkheur]

I have had my R-4's in mud and I did not get stuck and I had traction.

 

[kozak]

Go with the R-1. I made the mistake of getting the R-4s on a L3010 and L4610 and was never happy. A couple of the low lights:

1. R-4s are about worthless in the snow, they float on top and get next to no traction. I had to put chains on to clear even a few inches.
2. R-4s float on wet grass. If you have any hills, be careful going down they will let loose.
3. R-4s are next to worthless in mud. They load up and just spin.
4. R-4s will slide on sidehills. About had to leave my L4610 in the woods one winter where it let loose and slid into a tree.
5. R-4s tear turf up about as bad as the R-1s.

All in all, unless you are working almost exclusively on pavement or concrete go with the R-1s or turf.

Hey Diggerkid,

Don't really understand where your coming from. You have the experience with R4's & I don't BUT, all I have are Turfs & they work fine in the snow. I just cannot see how somebody with R4's would be worse off than somebody with turfs UNLESS they did not have the proper ballast on the back. My turfs were also spinning on very little snow on the ground but 550 lbs took care of that EVEN ON ICE !! So I think your somewhat exaggerating the poor performance of R4's unless you were transversing some pretty steep terain.

Vic

 

[ddivinia]

I have had my R-4's in mud and I did not get stuck and I had traction.

I have not gotten stuck yet, but the balls sure ball up with mud. We have black clay here in Texas - it some nasty stuff.

D.

 

[frank_f15]

Go with the R-1. I made the mistake of getting the R-4s on a L3010 and L4610 and was never happy. A couple of the low lights:

1. R-4s are about worthless in the snow, they float on top and get next to no traction. I had to put chains on to clear even a few inches.
2. R-4s float on wet grass. If you have any hills, be careful going down they will let loose.
3. R-4s are next to worthless in mud. They load up and just spin.
4. R-4s will slide on sidehills. About had to leave my L4610 in the woods one winter where it let loose and slid into a tree.
5. R-4s tear turf up about as bad as the R-1s.

All in all, unless you are working almost exclusively on pavement or concrete go with the R-1s or turf.

I find your coments to be off kilter. i have R4's pm my B2400 and never found them to plug up with snow ( and i move a lot of deep snow) ice is more of a problem, but then ice with any tire is a problem, unless you have chains. will grant the R4's are prettly mush usless in mud.But in my case R4's work fine.

 

[diyDave]

If you want to settle this argument yourself, very easily, Put one r1 on one side, and one r4 on the other side, and weight both sides the same, then tell us which is better for your conditions. That way you only have to buy one tire when you make up your mind!

 

[Builder]

"I find your coments to be off kilter. i have R4's pm my B2400 and never found them to plug up with snow ( and i move a lot of deep snow) ice is more of a problem, but then ice with any tire is a problem, unless you have chains. will grant the R4's are prettly mush usless in mud.But in my case R4's work fine."

I tend to agree. There must be some way all the thousands of backhoes out there with R-1's are able to plow snow and do loader/backhoe work in mud so effectively.

Hey Builder, I can't tell you how flattered I am that you can't stop thinking about me....but I'm a married man. Sorry.

Really? Who's the lucky guy you married?

Thanks for the offer, but I don't date guys. Only girls for me, but good luck with your hubby.

Tsk tsk....it's ashame you decide to play the "misplelled grammar-card" and the "can't beat him, so insinuate he's a ****-card" so soon. I didn't think you were this petty & immature. Especially for a MD, georgie.

I thought you said we were laughing and having fun? You're so serious. What's next? PM to the moderator?

Lawsuit????

 

[Double Orange]

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Here is a good start.

 

[the_sandman_454]

I've had pretty good luck with the R4's on my 3520. I have been stuck in mud once, but I think that's partially attributable to having a bucket full of material in the loader with insufficient rear ballast, so it may have been lighter in the rear than it should have been. Was able to walk it out with the loader though. I've realized that until I amend the soil (mostly clay and other stuff that holds water like crazy), add better drainage, etc, that area is off limits to everything except the ATV until it dries up for the year.

I've had pretty good luck on snow and ice, but then again I don't have much driveway to clear.

That having been said, I've never had ag tires, so maybe it's just that I have nothing to compare it to. I think if I get something else in the future there's a good chance it'll be bigger, and have ags, since it won't also be serving lawn care duty.

 

[wolc123]

It depends on how much traction you need to get your jobs done. Some impliments, like snowplows, moldboard plows, disks, subsoillers require lots of tractions and R4's are a poor choice, Others, like snowblowers, rototillers, mowers, and bailers require far less traction and R4's will do alright. To get some idea about what traction force a tractor of given weight will develope, A 2wd with R1's will pull about the same as a 4wd with R4's. So in this case, 4wd roughly overcomes the traction deficiencies of R4 tires, but to get the most traction capability out of any tractor, 2wd or 4wd, you need R1's. This traction does come at a cost, which is more lawn damage caused by the more aggressive profile and tread of the R1. If you will never or rarely use your tractor on the lawn, then R1's should be the obvious choice. Arguments in favor of greater puncture resistance and better wear are mostly irrelavant for CUT usage compared to the traction factor.