Ag or Industrial Tires

[Builder]

It depends on how much traction you need to get your jobs done. Some impliments, like snowplows, moldboard plows, disks, subsoillers require lots of tractions and R4's are a poor choice, Others, like snowblowers, rototillers, mowers, and bailers require far less traction and R4's will do alright. To get some idea about what traction force a tractor of given weight will develope, A 2wd with R1's will pull about the same as a 4wd with R4's. So in this case, 4wd roughly overcomes the traction deficiencies of R4 tires, but to get the most traction capability out of any tractor, 2wd or 4wd, you need R1's. This traction does come at a cost, which is more lawn damage caused by the more aggressive profile and tread of the R1. If you will never or rarely use your tractor on the lawn, then R1's should be the obvious choice. Arguments in favor of greater puncture resistance and better wear are mostly irrelavant for CUT usage compared to the traction factor.

I really disagree with that. I'd take a 4x4 with R-4s over a 4x2 with R-1's, unless they were duals.

 

[wolc123]

I understand your prefrence for the R4, "builder". Now if you were a "farmer" like I am, you would get a better understanding for the huge traction advantage of the the R1.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I really disagree with that. I'd take a 4x4 with R-4s over a 4x2 with R-1's, unless they were duals.

I dont think youre disagreeing with what wolc123 meant.
larry

 

[Builder]

I understand your prefrence for the R4, "builder". Now if you were a "farmer" like I am, you would get a better understanding for the huge traction advantage of the the R1.

Point taken, "farmer". My guess is 8-9 out of 10 members on this website are not farmers. I spoke in terms of thinking of the non-farmers, the bulk of the website's membership. Also, the member I previously quoted spoke of a CUT, not a farmer's tractor.

I agree with you though, I've driven enough farm equipment to know R-1's would be better for pulling a big plow since the plow puts so much weight/traction on the rear axle & tires.

 

[N80]

Really? Who's the lucky guy you married?

Well, down here in SC that's illegal. Must be different where you live.

Tsk tsk....it's ashame you decide to play the "misplelled grammar-card"

snicker

and the "can't beat him, so insinuate he's a ****-card" so soon. I didn't think you were this petty & immature. Especially for a MD, georgie.

I'm just full of surprises aren't I?

I thought you said we were laughing and having fun?

Oh, I am. Almost spewed coca-cola out of my nose after reading this one.

You're so serious.

Hey now, that's going too far. Take it back!

Now, in regard to R1s vs R4s.....isn't that what we're talking about? In any case, my experience with R1s, with 4wd, is that there are plenty of times when they don't provide enough traction. I'm not a farmer. I do pretty typical stuff. And bush hogging on a wet grassy hill, though far from pulling a plow, the traction provided by R1's is welcome and even sometimes not enough.

So knowing that my demands, doing very typical stuff, often exceed the capability of my R1s, I could not see using anything with less traction.

And so far, I've had no tire punctures and have never blown a front due to loader work. (I did roll one off the rim once, but it was on a hill, too much in the loader and the tire pressure was way too low....a recipe for disaster with any tire.)

I'm not arguing for or against a tire type, just stating that for uses like mine, traction is more important than the potential benefits of R4s.

 

[johnk]

Diesel or Gas??? The ongoing story....... Fun though with many different thoughts. I like all tires as long as they are round and don't go flat and don't wear out fast and provide ballast and look good on the tractor and self clean and don't weather check and hold fluid ...............My Data banks are overflowing.. I have oversize R-1's......

 

[VT365]

Those 2 photos pretty much describe the R4's on my tractor. The rears look like a "cross" between R4's and R1's. Traction is adequate.
(8-ply Titan's)

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Now, in regard to R1s vs R4s.....isn't that what we're talking about? In any case, my experience with R1s, with 4wd, is that there are plenty of times when they don't provide enough traction. I'm not a farmer. I do pretty typical stuff. And bush hogging on a wet grassy hill, though far from pulling a plow, the traction provided by R1's is welcome and even sometimes not enough.

So knowing that my demands, doing very typical stuff, often exceed the capability of my R1s, I could not see using anything with less traction.

And so far, I've had no tire punctures and have never blown a front due to loader work. (I did roll one off the rim once, but it was on a hill, too much in the loader and the tire pressure was way too low....a recipe for disaster with any tire.)

I'm not arguing for or against a tire type, just stating that for uses like mine, traction is more important than the potential benefits of R4s.

Sounds like you need more weight to me.

 

[N80]

Sounds like you need more weight to me.

Or maybe I should be pushing over smaller trees and stumps.

But yes, I'd like more weight. Already got the rears loaded with fluid. But weight is not the only issue when it comes to traction. As in going down hill, or maybe even slightly cross-hill, the weight can even work against you.

 

[Builder]

Or maybe I should be pushing over smaller trees and stumps.

But yes, I'd like more weight. Already got the rears loaded with fluid. But weight is not the only issue when it comes to traction. As in going down hill, or maybe even slightly cross-hill, the weight can even work against you.

You could always let your life partner stand on the back for extra weight.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

"Those 2 photos pretty much describe the R4's on my tractor. The rears look like a "cross" between R4's and R1's. Traction is adequate.
(8-ply Titan's)"

I like Titan tires. I've bought too many sets of them, but they are better than most of the Chinese junk out there.