AGS OR R4 THATS THE ?

[SHIFTY]

Ive SETTLED ON A 3010HST W/481L,I an having trouble deciding on the ags or r4,I dont get into deep mud(well i try not to),mostly gravel,moving fields and digging out in the winter,I do use the loader a bit and ive heard that alot of people in the form are going with the r4,ive also heard people complaining about getting alot of wheel spin in the mud,spinning and getting stuck are to different things,can you give me your input?thanks again ,SHIFTY
I cant wait,going from L2050 to grand L!!I hope their is no luxary tax

 

[art]

Shifty the ag tire are the best cleaning tires going. The R-4's are second best at cleaning and they do little damage compares to ag tires after you get through landscaping. The plus of four wheel drive normally pulls people thru otherwise. Are you paying around 17,500?

 

[SHIFTY]

Art,thanks for the input,around a thousand less

 

[dullpain]

I have seen a lot of discussion on the attributes of both Ag (R1's ?) & R4's on this board. I have only had Ag's on my 2 tractors. 1st tractor was a 1900 Ford 4wd, 32 HP, no loader. Had it for 15 years and it did a good job for me. Now have a M5700 Kubota 4wd, w/FEL, AG tires, with only 18 hours. I have not mowed with the Kubota yet. I kept about 4 acres of lawn cut with a Woods rear mount finish mower. The Ag tires on the Ford did little or no damage to my lawn, only on very wet ground and sharp tuns would it mark the ground a little. No 4wd in use on mowing as lawn is relatively flat.
My Kubota weighs about twice what the Ford did, but it also has tires about twice as large therfore the PSI for contact surface probably more or less equal. Now to the heart of my opinion.

Several months back I needed to move some dirt (about 24 cubic yards) and borrowed by neighbors L4610 GST w/R4 tires. It did an admirable job but seemed like too much wheel spin. Just this week I had occasion to use my M5700 and FEL to move/push a lot of dirt. The ground was quite wet and I did do some damage to turf. The AG tires for my money give more traction in most situations. You need to accept that they do a little more damage than R4's though.

Couple all of this with my inexperience with the borrowed L4610, and same for new M5700, and never having a lot of loader time. I should have you absolutely confused now!! R1 AG TIRES for my money.

 

[gvw]

If its traction that you want go with the R-1 AG tire. The R-4s are easier on the rabbit food if your driving on the lawn or other surface that you wnat to "tread litely upon". If you want the maximum amount of friction which equals traction ---go with the R-1.

 

[Bird]

I, too, am running ag tires on my B2710 and mow my yard with no unreasonable scuffing. Of course I don't have the kind of manicured lawn I had when I lived in town./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird

 

[Billc]

I have a 5400 with ag tires. I mow my pastures with it. Do my yard with a riding mower.

There are times when I take a tight turn the ags will tear up the grass a little. Guess the main rule is if you have a really nice yard and will be taking your tractor across it maybe the R4s are the answer. If not, then ags are the answer.

Do a look up about tractor tires. I know we've had lots of discussions over the the past year about R1s and R4s. MarkC had done a ton of work on the subject.

Bill Cook

 

[bsauter]

I had turfs on my B2150 and plowed snow with no chains and 4WD. Never had a problem but I live in flat Indiana. They of course were fine on the lawn. My B2910 and now the L3010 have R4's. Much better for loader work and a comprimise on the lawn. You can scuff if you go too sharp or fast. My 3010 will leave tread indentations in the lawn in wet areas from the R4's and 2WD. Not soaked area but just wet. I wait a few days after rain to cut now so I don't destroy the lawn. I can't imagine what Ags would do to my lawn. I cut about 5 acres finish mowing.

Working on my ring the past weekend in the wet and cold drizzle I would spin my tires at times when ripping up the wet sod. Ag's would have been better and cleaned out better but I couldn't have done it with my old B2150 and turfs at all. Everything is a compramise. If I had my way I would also have a ZTR mower with turfs just for cutting grass and the tractor with ags for other stuff but I can't so the R4's make a great comprimise for me. In the spring when we get a lot of rain I may be wishing for the old turf tires again though! I think the R4's are good for being a jack of all trades-master of none. Kinda like me.

Brad, Kubota L3010HST, loader, R4 tires
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[SHIFTY]

Thanks for the input,i just ordered a 3710hst fel with r4-ill let you know how they make out when im digging out in VT this winter

 

[MChalkley]

Shifty - I think you'll be happy with the R4's (not to mention the rest of the tractor - a fine rig!), but I'd like to make a couple suggestions: 1) When you're concerned about turf damage, stay out of 4wd, except when absolutely necessary, and then limit sharp turns to a minimum. 2) Whatever tires you get, contact the manufacturer(s), get a load table for them, and inflate the tires to no more pressure than is necessary for the maximum load you'll be carrying. Your tires will wear better, the tractor will ride better, you'll damage/compact the ground surfaces less, and you'll have a lot more traction.

MarkC