Akita Pool

Redlands Okie · Jul 31, 2017

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Edie check this out. It's a underlayment for tile. In or outdoor. The detra would probably be best for you instead of Kerdi. It's sold at box stores and at pro tile shops. It's waterproof by itself. The detra would likely handle the block movement really well. Tile is just to protect the detra and for looks. It can even be used in steam rooms when properly applied which is impressive. No idea why you could not just skim coat it with a under water rated concrete coating. I will try to check with a factory rep I use for more info for you.

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P.s. Schluter provides hands on with classroom teaching mix certification classes in their products. If travel is involved they often will comp you the motel rooms and meals. I get the impression you do remodel work and this may be of use to you. The home site list locations and schedules. It's a top notch company and product line for my business over the last few years.

EddieWalker · Jul 31, 2017

Your puppy pond turned out great!!! This was our original plan, but it kept getting more and more complex. Finally we just stopped, decided what we really wanted, where we wanted it, and what our options where. This is our third plan. It's still evolving, but only the small details are changing for now.

AGRIMAN · Aug 1, 2017

EddieWalker said:
Then I will paint Redgard onto the inside walls, steps and floor. Redguard is a kind of paint that is used in bathrooms showers that makes everything water proof. It's also listed as being used for swimming pools on their website.

When I lived in Indonesia, cinder block was used all the time for pools and fountains. Searching online, I found quite a few links on doing this too.

After the Redgard, I will be using a special thinset mortar designed for swimming pools that adds another layer of waterproofing. Same thing with the tile, it is denser then regular ceramic tile.

Eddie,

I'm not suggesting that your plan won't work, but if you have problems another option would be to apply a polyurea coating. You might want to check with someone in your area just to compare pricing before you start.

We have sprayed it several times now (no pools yet) and it's some cool stuff. It lays down nice an in around 45 sec turns to a solid rubber.

We sprayed some today for a engineering firm that's testing new methods for reinforcing concrete. They had 25 small test forms set up using different materials and we sprayed different thickness between the concrete in each form depending on what their test plan called for.

AGRIMAN · Aug 1, 2017

I was also going mention that we spray foamed a 850 square foot dog house a while back for a guy that has three dogs very similar to yours. I just assumed they were Husky's, but beautiful dogs regardless.

It was one building, but designed so it could be used as one room or three separate rooms with the outside fenced area the same.

He was having a small HVAC unit installed to keep them cool in the summer heat, but they didn't have a in ground pool.

You could tell that they were his kids.

17 Oaks · Aug 1, 2017

AGRIMAN said:
I was also going mention that we spray foamed a 850 square foot dog house a while back for a guy that has three dogs very similar to yours. I just assumed they were Husky's, but beautiful dogs regardless.

It was one building, but designed so it could be used as one room or three separate rooms with the outside fenced area the same.

He was having a small HVAC unit installed to keep them cool in the summer heat, but they didn't have a in ground pool.

You could tell that they were his kids.

Being a dog lover you can tell that guy you know someone whose dogs live in a 3000 sq ft house, one of my dogs owns a successful company in the pet industry and when it comes time to go someplace they ride in a 5th bought for them and redesigned on the inside for them, but most of all our dogs are with us 24x7, they are our children.

EddieWalker · Aug 1, 2017

Redlands Okie said:
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Edie check this out. It's a underlayment for tile. In or outdoor. The detra would probably be best for you instead of Kerdi. It's sold at box stores and at pro tile shops. It's waterproof by itself. The detra would likely handle the block movement really well. Tile is just to protect the detra and for looks. It can even be used in steam rooms when properly applied which is impressive. No idea why you could not just skim coat it with a under water rated concrete coating. I will try to check with a factory rep I use for more info for you.

schluter.com | Homepage

P.s. Schluter provides hands on with classroom teaching mix certification classes in their products. If travel is involved they often will comp you the motel rooms and meals. I get the impression you do remodel work and this may be of use to you. The home site list locations and schedules. It's a top notch company and product line for my business over the last few years.

Thank you. I was trying to decide between Schluter and Redgard for this, and in the end, the elastic properties of the Redgard seem to be superior to Schluter. The price difference is also significant. Schluter wants over $200 for their drains. Needing two drains, plus three water inlet jets and the skimmer, it just became too much of a challenge to figure out how to do this with Schluter.

If you keep up with all the latest advances in the Housing Industry, and latest methods for sealing up a house, Redgard and other brands that are similar like Blue Max, are replacing window flashing and even house wrapping. The upfront cost is more, but the results are so much better that it's becoming worthwhile. Kind of like comparing closed cell foam to fiberglass. One is just a lot better then the other.

Another thing that kind of started this is all those pools I saw overseas built out of cinder blocks. When I lived in Jakarta, everyone at the Embassies, and those working for the oil companies in nice houses, had a cinder block pool. They where all sealed with tile. When I lived in Yaounde, which is really third world, they where also built from cinder blocks. You just didn't see as many pools in Africa as you did in Asia.

EddieWalker · Aug 1, 2017

17 Oaks said:
Being a dog lover you can tell that guy you know someone whose dogs live in a 3000 sq ft house, one of my dogs owns a successful company in the pet industry and when it comes time to go someplace they ride in a 5th bought for them and redesigned on the inside for them, but most of all our dogs are with us 24x7, they are our children.

Sounds like your dog is quite the over achiever!!! What company does he own? I wonder if we've bought your product?

17 Oaks · Aug 1, 2017

EddieWalker said:
Sounds like your dog is quite the over achiever!!! What company does he own? I wonder if we've bought your product?

Perhaps, we are going into our 6th year of business, we sell on line and at shows across Texas, not available in stores albeit HEB and COSTCO have wanted us in their stores. I turned them down as I don't think I can maintain the quality at that big of a volume and the distribution challenges.

This is Buddy the Coon Hound, testing one of his products...