Knight9
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I don't know about the 30 Billion...but this is quite the read! Ontario Wind Turbines | Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America
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I don't know about the 30 Billion...but this is quite the read! Ontario Wind Turbines | Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America
buickanddeere
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Efficiency of scale. One 500Mw generator costs less to build and operate than ten 50Mw power plants.
truckdiagnostics
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Key point connected to the grid and on your, "grid" what happens at night and when there is no wind? Take out the fossil fired power plants and solar and wind won't work. Next point connected, most of the solar and wind farms have to be in rural areas people have not proven to be to inclined to have power lines running through there back yards. Once again, how is the solar and wind going to work at night and when there is no wind?
Total wind production last year, from the auditor generals report, was $1B....
Yet someone would have us believe we just handed them thirty times that amount... Just for fun.
What if that one generator is nuclear.
buickanddeere
Super Member
Even better
buickanddeere
Super Member
It was a billion that wind and solar cost Ontario to pay the producers then turn around and give that power to Michigan and NY.30 billion is for the wind program infrastructure.
truckdiagnostics
Platinum Member
That would be a solution, and I could jump on the nuclear band wagon. However, they are decommissioning the nuke plant and putting up wind farms and a natural gas plant and that is all in about 60 mile radius of where we live. How that is decreasing our carbon foot print I will never know. Oh, and they build the wind towers in that same area. The original post was expounding on the wonders of solar power. I have a hard time with solar and the wind industry telling us it is the next best thing since sliced bread, when it can't work off the grid, cost effectively any way. Then turn around and trash fossil fueled fired plants, which will run just fine with out wind and solar. Not to mention the paranoia surrounding nuclear power.
His figures maybe wrong, that is however not what the general public thinks, they think that wind mill powers a 100 homes. They leave out the part it can't do it without the help of those fossil fueled fired power plants. How about we say it this way, it powers x amount of homes when the sun shines and the wind blows and the rest of the time, it works with a little help from those evil fossil fuel fired plants. So, in my little world I fail to see how wind and solar are lowing the carbon foot print, my electrical bill and ever going to work.
The whole business model for the Fit program, is that the generator is obligated to meet the contract terms based on the price agreed to per kWhr.
$30B sounds like the number we are on the hook for as a result of Ontario Hydro downloading it's debt to the province. Remember that? You should because it's half the value of every monthly bill you pay.... And they have their hands out for another $14B to refurbish Darlington.
$30B sounds like the number we are on the hook for as a result of Ontario Hydro downloading it's debt to the province. Remember that? You should because it's half the value of every monthly bill you pay.... And they have their hands out for another $14B to refurbish Darlington.
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Egon
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And then you give the generated power away because there is no flexibility and if a physical event there is nothing. A physical event can occur at the power generating site or on the grid. Main supply gets the ice storm treatment and everyone is down.
