Allis Chalmers CA Water Pump Replacement

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Finally had time today to work on Allis. I got a new water pump from Steve@B&B and I got the tins stripped off, rad out, everything good so far.
But before I go any further and screw anything up, how do I get this pulley off the water pump? Do I have to remove those nuts? I have never seen one like this before.
 

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Turns out water pump is okay. It's the thermostat housing gasket that was leaking, but no way to see it until I pulled it all apart.
But going to replace everything at this point.
 

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Everything came apart perfect!

Now, what everyone's opinion.....RTV silicone on gasket surfaces with the new gaskets or no?
 
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Got ahold of two of my Cat mechanics and they said gasket only.
 
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My thinking is probably leave the gasket off and use the orange silicone on the thermostat housing. I think on the rest just the gasket. Others might have a better idea.
 
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Usually have a tension arm that you can release the
pressure to remove a belt??

willy
 
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You've already got your answer from the pro's, but I'm really not a fan of tube type silicones for sealant. Guess I've taken enough old tactors apart where PO's have been pretty liberal with the blue, red, gray, or black "goop". Beads on the inside have broken loose on oil pans, and was found on the sump screen, inside axle housings etc. Some just don't know when to say when.

I prefer a light coat of Permatex brush on sealants like high tack, or aviation type. Just my personal preference.
 
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My thinking is probably leave the gasket off and use the orange silicone on the thermostat housing. I think on the rest just the gasket. Others might have a better idea.
Ya, I don't have a new gasket for the thermostat housing. You think leave the gasket off and just use sealant on that?
 
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Usually have a tension arm that you can release the
pressure to remove a belt??

willy
Well mine does now because it's converted to 12 volt with an alternator. But I guess that pulley if how you adjust belt tension when it still had the generator.
The guys on the Allis forum taught me that last night.
Glad I didn't have to play with it, because it looks like a past owner already beat it up a bit. The slots are a bit messed up.
 
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Ya, I don't have a new gasket for the thermostat housing. You think leave the gasket off and just use sealant on that?
I had our mechanic at work teach me how to "tap" out gaskets with a smaller ball pein hammer about 40 years ago. It's gotten me out of a lot of pinches over the years and save a lot of money and time. Year ago you could buy flat sheets of different thickness gasket material, and for different purposes. Some for oil some for water/coolant. I still make a lot when going over a tractor, especially PTO covers, axle housings when installing new brakes, seals, etc. Mainly on cast parts. The one you need would be easy.

Now seems gasket material comes in rolls to conserve storage, I guess. That mechanic also taught me how to make those round rolls flat PDQ. He'd cut a piece of material big enough to make what he wanted, then take a steam iron, spritz some water on the gasket and iron it flat. I keep a scrap piece of 3/4" plywood in the shop for my ironing board, then lay a paper shop towel on top, underneath the gasket material. Works like a charm.

You'll want to tap out the bolt holes first to hold it in place. And in your case, then tap out the port in the head, then the outside. I've got quite a collection of ball pein hammers I've collected over the years, picking up at swap meets, yard sales, thrift stores, etc. the pointier, the better. And numerous rolls of gasket material. For that one, you'd want something coolant resistant. Just takes a little time and patience. If you have a some fuzzies hanging on like in the last picture, I keep several utility knives around. Just rake backwards and they come right off.
 

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