am I getting the runaround?

[Coyote machine]

Will your selling dealer swap out the cylinder in question to see if that fixes the problem, especially:confused3: since it's all under warranty?

 

[Gator6x4]

There is nothing wrong with the DPOCVs. But by having them IF you have the float function available to you, you have just eliminated all working possibilities that you had by using the float function. If you are a person that does not understand the many uses of having the float function, then you are just as well off or even better off having the DPOCVs. But there are benefits to having the float function available with the top and tilt systems.

The original side link and top link do not float. They are fixed. The three point lift arm will float up.

I understand and use the float function on a loader. Exactly what would I use a float function for on a side link attached to a scrape blade, box blade or tiller?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The original side link and top link do not float. They are fixed. The three point lift arm will float up.

I understand and use the float function on a loader. Exactly what would I use a float function for on a side link attached to a scrape blade, box blade or tiller?

Actually, many tractors have a slot in the lower clevis of the side link. The pin can be either locked in place so it is rigid or unlocked and then the implement is free to float up independent from one side to the other. John Deere has this on all of their deluxe tractors 3000 series and up. Kubota has it on the M8540 and up and many of the Korean tractors have it on the 50hp and up sizes. And I think that some New Holland's have it also. So there are a few that do have the option of side-side floating, even with manually adjusted linkages.

Yes the 3pt arms float up, but together, not independently. Having the arms being able to move separately has it's place.

You would use it anytime that you want to scrape a surface clean, not trying to level anything out.

When finish grading a road at an intersection. The camber of the road changes from one road to the next. Just as you go around a corner, kick the side link into float and the implement then follows the angle of the road instead of the angle of the tractor as it goes around the corner. That way you don't dig in or leave piles of dirt where you don't want it.

I guess that you could use it on a tiller, John Deere recommends that the slots be used when tilling, also when mowing. The hydraulic float is not a good thing for mowing. It's main use is when doing dirt work. It is not like you use it all the time, just in certain situations.

the pictures are of a JD and a Kubota.

I hope that sort of gives you an idea.

 

[Gator6x4]

I have always been told the slots were locking slots. Adjust the side link to the desired position and then slide down over the male protrusion and lock into place. If you look at the two picture posted you will see two small round rods welded to the top part of the side link. The sleeve is square or rectangular. The rods are what allows the sleeve to turn the top part of the side link to adjust allowing for the side link to be shorten or lengthen. Obtain the correct height, slide the sleeve down over the male protrusions and the side link is locked in position and will not change positions when in use.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I have always been told the slots were locking slots. Adjust the side link to the desired position and then slide down over the male protrusion and lock into place. If you look at the two picture posted you will see two small round rods welded to the top part of the side link. The sleeve is square or rectangular. The rods are what allows the sleeve to turn the top part of the side link to adjust allowing for the side link to be shorten or lengthen. Obtain the correct height, slide the sleeve down over the male protrusions and the side link is locked in position and will not change positions when in use.

I am not talking about the adjustment that you have just mentioned. Look at the clevis at the bottom of the side link. The clevis has a slot in it. there are guides on the clevis. The pin has a rectangular head and a similar plate that is on the other side that a retaining pin goes through. In the pictures the pin is in the locked down position. Turn the pin 90 degrees and you then have a pin that allows the draft arm to float up independently of the other draft arm.

 

[npalen]

Looks like the floating side links (the slotted ones) would also make it easier to mount 3PT implements when the tractor and/or implement is not on a flat surface.