Amazing Consistency

   / Amazing Consistency #1  

bmac

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Disclaimer: Nothing in this post is intended to be critical of PT or the PT community.

Aside from a few recent posts in the Rural Living forum(about chickens, of all things), I've not spent much time on TBN lately. Tonight, I had some free time and wanted to see what was happening with the PT enthusiasts. Its as if time has been standing still.

I happened upon TBN back in 2002 when I was thinking about getting my first tractor. I posted some questions in the "conventional" tractor forums, not knowing that anything else existed. Periodically, I'd see a post by some maverick who went by the name of Moss Road who would chime in on the merits of his quirky (to me, any way) little green machine called a Power Trac. Eventually, curiosity got the best of me so I started reading the posts in this forum.

After spending many hours reading and posting questions, I thought I was ready to join the PT fraternity. However, in the end, I chickened out and went Blue. After that, I spent less time in the PT forum, with only an occassional visit to see if anything new was happening.

Here it is now, about 5 an 1/2 years after my first visit and as I read the posts its like I've been in a state of suspended animation. Now, in all fairness, were I to go back to the NH forum, I'd probably find the same thing. But, after making my purchase, I really spent very little time in the blue area. So, I really wouldn't know for sure what's different or the same there.

But here, time seems to have stood still. Moss is still professor emeritus - superbly moderating the discussions, chiming in with his advice from years of PT experience. PT owners still praising and cursing their machines in the same breath. Folks making mods that would put Rube Goldberg to shame. Terry is still the only guy at PT HQ who has a clue. QC issues at the PT factory are still present. PT still doesn't use e-mail. I could probably go on with other examples.

The neat thing to me about this is that there is such a bond between the PT users and their machines that, despite the issues with the PT business model, QC, etc. you guys remain ever faithful. I can't imagine any other tractor company (or car company or any kind of company) that would have stayed in business under similar conditions. I think this speaks volumes about the uniqueness and value of this product. That despite the shortcomings, nothing else will do things quite the same as the PT (at the same price point, anyway).

I earlier referred to the PT fraternity. I truly look at you folks as a brothehood, of sorts. Sticking together, helping one another, collaberating on ideas for improvements / modifications. I think its great.

So, a tip of the hat to the PT owners on TBN. I have and still enjoy the antics here and will still pop in from time to time. My prediction is that, in another 5 an 1/2 years, Terry will still be the only one at PT who has a clue, they still won't use e-mail, there will still be metal shavings in the hydraulic tanks when PTs leave the factory, Moss Road will still be the voice of reason here and you folks will still love your Power Tracs.

Oh, and I still wish I had the courage and mechanical skills necessary to own one of these quirky machines.
 
   / Amazing Consistency #4  
Bmac, Great post, ... great observations, thank you. ... and yes, we love our PT's !!!
 
   / Amazing Consistency #5  
bmac, pretty good summary, but remember not everyone has had a lot of problems with their PT.
 
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BobRip said:
bmac, pretty good summary, but remember not everyone has had a lot of problems with their PT.

Hi, Bob.

Certainly, I don't doubt that at all and I hope I didn't imply that. As is true with other products that have a related discussion forum, many (dare I say most?) of the posts tend to come from those who DO have problems. The happy folks are often silent.

Of course, the PT forum is also ripe with posts about mods, fabricating new attachments, projects, etc. Its those posts that made me want to visit this forum occasionally. Not because I had a machine that I could apply that information to, but rather to just enjoy talents of the folks who could come up with this stuff.

I guess what I was trying to say was that the same issues that I recall seeing many years ago seem to be the same ones popping up now. But, at the same time, the PT community has not lost their enthusiasm for thier machines DESPITE the lack of response to these issues by the PT home office. THAT is what I find to be remarkable and I think says a lot about the PT equipment and you folks who can and do find ways to work around these issues.

Don't know if this clarified anything or just muddied the water more.
 
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bmac said:
Hi, Bob.

Certainly, I don't doubt that at all and I hope I didn't imply that. As is true with other products that have a related discussion forum, many (dare I say most?) of the posts tend to come from those who DO have problems. The happy folks are often silent.

bmac, I did not mean to sound so against you. Your point above is what I was trying to highlight. Since happy folks are silent, I as a happy owner choose not to be silent. I am looking forward to purchasing the PT429.
 
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bmac said:
I've not spent much time on TBN lately. Tonight, I had some free time and wanted to see what was happening with the PT enthusiasts. Its as if time has been standing still.

Hey! Good to hear from you in this forum again! :D

For the most part we are still stuck in time. There are a few neat developments with the PT. For instance, someone custom ordered a PT425 with the wheel motors off of a larger unit. They wanted taller tires to operate on the beach sand and PT put the larger motors on to compensate for the torque that would be lost by gearing up.

PT will work with us as individuals, for a price, of course! :)

But you are correct in that Terry is the man and no one there will answer e-mail. Quirky little company with a niche product. I haven't operated mine for almost two months. No snow and grass isn't growing yet.

So, how's that NH treating you?

We have a former PT owner here (who will remain nameless :)) that sold his PT to a neighbor and went orange. I see him as no different than anyone else that has owned and operated different makes and models of tractors. The different levels of user tractor experience can really help a person decide if a PT is the right tool for their needs. We also have a few folks that are not PT owners but have some great expertise with hydraulics that like to come here and offer assistance just because the PT is a cool hydraulic machine. All thoughts and opinions are always welcome in any of the forums on TBN. I have to say that the people that frequent the PT forum, whether they be PT owners or not, are the best bunch of folks here. :D
 

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