Another confused first timer

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I've been wondering when people would stop putting all of their effort into reducing the things we haven't been able to change. Like atmospheric change... and at least begin to put some effort into reducing the inevitable results - like flooding of coastal cities, inland weather extremes, & changes in growing crops - that now seem like they will be a part of our future.

We've missed the early train. Might still be time to catch the next one....
rScotty

Scotty, I have been following politics all my life and if there is anything I have learned from it all it's that man knows how to solve his own problems but he's just not willing to do it. Corruption and sin is what is the root cause of every problem we have down here. There is no advancement in technology or science that is going to reverse or stop the problem of the human condition. In a weird kind of way the more we advance with progress and technology the more backwards we become politically and morally as a society.

 

[DieselBound]

Scotty, I have been following politics all my life and if there is anything I have learned from it all it's that man knows how to solve his own problems but he's just not willing to do it. Corruption and sin is what is the root cause of every problem we have down here. There is no advancement in technology or science that is going to reverse or stop the problem of the human condition. In a weird kind of way the more we advance with progress and technology the more backwards we become politically and morally as a society.

There's a basic thing to life and that's that it generally has no understanding that things are finite. Grow until there's a die-off. Go forth and multiply.

Corruption and sin is in our minds. We are OF nature, and nature is deceptive (for survival). No blame for self-preservation, it's built in. There is no such thing as "solution," as the very word denoted permanence. Think of it as you will, but it's all a built-in catch-22: is it Buddism that says that the gods are messing with us? (put is in a round room and told us to go p$ss in a corner type of thing)

I believe that humans do not know what the real problems are.

"The chief problems are solutions." -- Eric Sevareid

(to give away the point of that statement- it's that we just never seem able to ask the right questions such that we know what the problem really is- get the problem wrong and you ain't going to get any solution to work; I argue that we avoid the really hard stuff, such as asking the question of what we do when we run out of finite resources)

 

[rScotty]

There's a basic thing to life and that's that it generally has no understanding that things are finite. Grow until there's a die-off. Go forth and multiply.

As you point out, that thought does create another way to look at life and at things; a way that is more individualistic and self-centered, but no less popular and certainly no less defensible.

Still, I find that myself uncomfortable when I when I encounter thinking that goes like this:
"You and I are finite, so WE will not run out of resources before we run out of time.
All else is speculation."

That sort of thinking has become popular in some areas today. But for me it seems flawed somehow, and dispirited.

Maybe it's just not my style. If so, I'm glad of that.
rScotty

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Seems to me this thread has long run it's course, and has now wandered off into obscurity.

 

[azbinder]

Seems to me this thread has long run it's course, and has now wandered off into obscurity.

I was thinking the same earlier this morning.

 

[Hoodoo]

Seems to me this thread has long run it's course, and has now wandered off into obscurity.

You are probably correct. I am amazed that a simple question turned into such a wonderful thread that has wandered down so many paths.... 31 pages....Wow!
Thank you all for the input and wisdom. I will report back as I get closer to my decision.....the main issue now being money and my/our desire to not take on more debt at this point in our lives. So we are looking creative ways to get this done....but it will be done.
Thank you all again!
Hoodoo

 

[Stranmin]

I recently wanted to do agriculture because I retired and of course, the first thing I decided to buy was a tractor, but when I saw the prices, I was shocked. I can't afford to buy a tractor for 15 or 20 thousand dollars, and I'm not talking about the costs of branded models. There are generally exorbitant prices. However, I went to a website plant machinery equipment where a new section with compact tractors was opened. And these tractors cost three times less, but they do what I need, namely digging up the ground. Therefore, I am thinking of buying a compact tractor in the future. It will only be necessary to save up money.

 

[DieselBound]

Seems to me this thread has long run it's course, and has now wandered off into obscurity.

OP is asking a question that pushes into the "matter of life or death" category. A POINT to be seen is that one has to put things in context. Ignoring context and hoping that things turn out right won't get you "there."

 

[hornett22]

Mahindra 1626 will easily do everything you want with ease and is under your budget.

I've had mine a little less than two years and I've got 682 hours on it. I use it for a business.

 

[Mudfarmer]

Why do you own both Kubota and Deere? Which one do you like best?

I bought the Deere new to replace my 30 yr old ford 1700. At the time I wanted the gear transmission since that was what I was used to. i bought the B2710 used off Craig's list since i had recently purchased a separate piece of property and didn't want to haul the Deere back and forth. I bought the B2650 to replace the B2710 but decided to keep both. I now have four properties with three tractors all kept at separate places. Notably I like to mow fields with the JD since it is heavier and wider with R4 tires, but it is the hardest to trailer because of the weight. I like to mow around buildings, roads and tight spaces with the B2710 with its hydrostatic transmission. Both Kubotas have R1 tires, so they are more useful than the JD on my hilly tree farm in winter mud. Although I am using the B2650 more than the other two right now, come dry weather I will exchange it out for the JD. In the winter I keep the JD at home since I think it has the most PTO power to run my generator if needed. And with the JD's r4 tires it doesn't tear up the lawn in the winter when I'm moving stuff around.