Is this a scam? Another ebay scam

gsxr1100 · Mar 30, 2005

I agree. Refunds are if the seller sends money back. That can be as fast as a few minutes to a few hours/days.

Disputing a purchase you made using PayPal takes, "......it may take at least 30 days to complete our investigation and resolve the dispute".

Wait till the IRS gets involved in Ebay (for income).

Again, been out there selling and buying since 1997 and the morons are worse now then ever. When I first started it was great. Now the scammers are more then ever and the non-payers are more and more. Most people out there can't read I guess. You can ask quetions etc till you are blue in the face but it takes both parties to complete the auction.

Most people think it is not a huge issue (scammers) till it happens to them.

awlchu · Mar 30, 2005

Ebay can take action.

(1) Create intelligent ad scanners that look for key words and phrases that smell like a scam. How many times have you seen an ad that has "....do not email me through Ebay" or ..."free shipping" for a $$$ tractor or vehicle.

(2) Charge the listing fee(s) up front before the ad is placed. If the ad is disputed (read scam), do NOT refund the listing fee. Hit the scammer where it hurts the most, in the pocketbook. This will not hurt a legit seller at all.

(3) Also, I wish Ebay would have a direct link button on the listing's page instead of having to click through multiple pages to report a questionable listing.

MadReferee · Mar 30, 2005

( Wait till the IRS gets involved in Ebay (for income).)

What kind of lame statement is that?

Ebay is a multi-BILLION dollar publically traded company. They have auditors and such. Unless they are doing something underhanded or over/understating earnings the IRS is NOT going to get involved in disputes.

Where YOU have to be careful is if the IRS decides to start auditing those frequent sellers on Ebay. That's when the fun will really start, and that's where the IRS will make same money for the Treasury.

gsxr1100 · Mar 30, 2005

The IRS is thinking out getting involved for income purposes as posted on the news.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/03/27/national/w160046S32.DTL

Between the morons that can’t read or follow rules out there, the IRS thinking out getting more $$ for the, the increase in fees, it is not worth my time.

MadReferee · Mar 30, 2005

( Ebay can take action.

(1) Create intelligent ad scanners that look for key words and phrases that smell like a scam. How many times have you seen an ad that has "....do not email me through Ebay" or ..."free shipping" for a $$$ tractor or vehicle.)

Nice idea but how long would it be before the scammers figure out how to word the listing to get around the software scan?

This is probably the most easiest to implement, at least to raise a flag to Ebay that something might be amiss.

However, as I stated previously, I don't think Ebay will spend the $$$ and resources to weed out listings that represent only fractions of fractions of a percent of the total daily listings. It does not make good business sense to do so. It's more cost effective in the grand scheme of things (4 million listings per day) to deal with the few complaints that come in.

MadReferee · Mar 30, 2005

( The IRS is thinking out getting involved for income purposes as posted on the news. )

That's right. They are going after the SELLERS who are not reporting their profits as income. A quick court order or subpoena and Ebay will give up all the real names and addresses of their sellers to the IRS. Let the games begin. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

gsxr1100 · Mar 30, 2005

BINGO, it is like Adult content is to not be sold in normal auctions. Yea, that will never happen.

Ebay is great but there CS is poor due to the volume out there. Even Paypal is worse now that Ebay bought them.

Ebay does have software to scan for "Keywords" but many times they miss auctions.

gsxr1100 · Mar 30, 2005

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That's right. They are going after the SELLERS who are not reporting their profits as income. A quick court order or subpoena and Ebay will give up all the real names and addresses of their sellers to the IRS. Let the games begin. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif )

You will see some people stop selling ASAP! This will be great!

kubotabilly · Mar 30, 2005

Mike,
I claim all my ebay income, but I also know people that look at it this way. Do you or anyone else claim their income from yard sales and the like??? When you sell a tractor and make a profit, do you claim it??? There's many ways to look at this and I'm sure that is why the IRS has not gotten involved, JMO.

Bill

kubotabilly · Mar 30, 2005

Mike,
In both of my cases I spoke with paypal on the phone and got them resolved quickly. The cases involved not receiving my items. The seller did not use delivery confirmation and the items just never got to me. If you as a seller can't prove that you sent the item, they (paypal) will always cite with the buyer. I honestly can say that I have had no major problems with ebay or paypal.

Bill