Is this a scam? Another ebay scam

andrewimbrogno · Mar 28, 2005

IT seems like there is yet another kubota tractor scam on ebay. This time u can buy a b2910 with a new 19ft trailer for only 3500...seems like a complete scam and unfortunately theres have been many bids...was wondering if neone could report this because i dont have an account with ebay i just browse it every now and again web page

gsxr1100 · Mar 28, 2005

Gee, another scam on Ebay..shocking......

PS. Welcome to Ebay. I know there PayPal Buyer Protection is a TOTAL JOKE! There is no protection here. And have been taken for over $200 and never got it. There is a HUGE loop hole with there "protection".

SnowRidge · Mar 28, 2005

Well, I don't get it. The seller has a feedback score of well over 200, with a 99.6 rating, but he has never sold anything on EBay before. All the bidder names are blocked, and this shows as a private auction. I didn't know you could do private auctions.

Weirder still, it is listed as BuyItNow for $3500, but there was a $3500 bid, which must not have been placed BuyItNow. Why would a bidder just bid the BuyItNow price and not click on the BuyItNow button.

The whole thing seems strange.

Av8r3400 · Mar 28, 2005

BUYER BEWARE! If a deal looks too good, it probably is. I've never used E-Bay, and probably never will because of this type of thing. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

gsxr1100 · Mar 28, 2005

Ebay is going down the tubes....

andrewimbrogno · Mar 28, 2005

After looking at the users comments it seems like he doesn't seel nething on ebay, he just buys off of it. And i'm assuming his has another ebay account to try and start a bidding war. Ebay is not always this bad. I have only used it once to get a rare book that is out of publication and i must say it was a very smooth transaction...I would never buy nething big off of ebay though...i got hte book for 10 dollars which is less then what u would have paid for it at a book store...i prob wouldn't try on nething over that. I have heard that there are many lawsuits pending in courts over ebay transaction...if you a lucky enough to track down the seller...ebay has BUY BEWARE written all over it

California · Mar 28, 2005

Someone posted recently that he looked into several ebay tractors and they were *all* scams!

Last week I saw Three Auctions in Northern California for loaders worth $25-30k. I wrote asking if I could drive one before bidding.

The seller replied:

"The caterpillar is in perfect condition,with no scarches on it,no dammage.
Buy it now price with shipping taxes included is $4300.
The buyer will receive this along with all papers and recipts that he needs to register it in his name.
He will receive the keys,owner manual...
The caterpillar is in Slovakia and it will be shipped from here on my expence so,please REPLY WITH YOUR NAME AND SHIPPING ADDRESS IN YOUR NEXT EMAIL.
Shipping will be done via Samskip and it will take no more then 6 days.I have a friend at Samskip who will manage me a low price shipping and I assumed that it is from me to pay for shipping it.When I will shipp it,I will declare it as a gift so that you will pay no customs when you will receive it and for this it will be delivered directly to your address.
Also, I have to let you know that I want a proof that you have all the money availble for this deal as I will shipp it in the same day or next day morning, ...

Ya, sure.

After I sent my note (via ebay) I got a cautionary note from Ebay and the auction disappeared that I had inquired about. His other two auctions went to completion with several bidders.

Buyer beware!

coveredbridge · Mar 28, 2005

( IT seems like there is yet another kubota tractor scam on ebay. This time u can buy a b2910 with a new 19ft trailer for only 3500...seems like a complete scam and unfortunately theres have been many bids...was wondering if neone could report this because i dont have an account with ebay i just browse it every now and again web page )

Done. This is about the 4th one I've reported this month.

HomeBrew2 · Mar 28, 2005

gsxr: I'm new to ebay as I am to a lot of things. Couldn't care less about paypal's nor ebays "protection". If I don't get the item in 60 days, the visa card charge gets disputed. No I'm not "verified" by paypal, never will be. What am I missing? How can one be out $200.

MadReferee · Mar 28, 2005

( Ebay is going down the tubes.... )

I don't think so. You should wish you were doing this good.

For fiscal 2004, Ebay's net revenue was $3.27 BILLION dollars, up 51% fromn 2003.

Fiscal 2004 net income was $778 MILLION dollars, up 76% from 2003.

Ebay 2004 financial press release

SnowRidge · Mar 28, 2005

( Ebay is going down the tubes.... ) 

 I don't think so. You should wish you were doing this good. 

I have sold once and bought several times on EBay, always using PayPal. I've yet to have a real problem.

But I agree there are major problems with both companies, and EBay owns PayPal, so we might as well consider it as one. The EBay forums are filled with users who are really, really angry with the company. From what I can tell, most of the anger appears to be legitimate.

EBay seems not to care. They are doing so well financially that I think they believe they don't have to care. The only reason they can get away with it is the fact that they are really the only game in town. It's a lousy attitude that one day may come back to bite them where it hurts. I certainly hope so.

In the meantime though, the CEO, Meg Whitman, is so highly thought of by Wall Street that Disney tried to get her as its new CEO. Personally, I was sorry she didn't accept. I dislike the Mouse that much.

gws · Mar 29, 2005

I email ebay pretty much every other day about a tractor scams. 2004 or 2005 John deete with loader and bush hogs being sold for $3000-$5000. Yea right.

Gatorboy · Mar 29, 2005

Look, another sunrise today.

Posting about eBay scams on this forum is getting old.

fig · Mar 29, 2005

Looked a little bit ago. Ebay has already pulled the add.

gsxr1100 · Mar 29, 2005

I have been out on Ebay since 1997 and the people are getting bad, real bad. People apparently can't read the auctions, do not pay or can't understand Ebay polices.

Even my wifes company she workes for stopped selling due to people “not getting it”. I know people that have thousands of feedback and even they are stopping or slowing down since they are tired of the non payers etc.

I never stated the financials of it.

gsxr1100 · Mar 29, 2005

Lets see, if the item never arrives you file a complaint to Paypal. They look into it and it takes up to 15 to 20 business days for them too look into it. Now this is after waiting and waiting for the item to be shipping to you.

Side note: after 60 days your credit card people are going to do nothing. It is too long in time duration as outlined by Visa or MC.

Next, in my issue, they found the 2 sellers took me for a ride. So paypal stated, the seller owns you money; however, when they get money if their Paypal account they will pay (refund) you the funds. The loop hole is the seller just signs up for a new account and get to keep the money. Been though this twice and the wife once.

So far we just got one back (#4) with the time line. I had to call my debit card people since Paypal stated the same old situation......they own you money, but....

RexT · Mar 29, 2005

I also saw these scams on Ebay and since it stated the location was Kennesaw, GA, which is about 30 minutes away from my home, I sent an e-mail to the seller to find out if I could come see this tractor he had for sell. The reply I recieved informed me the tractor would be shipped by air cargo - Whoa!! Not even close to what I ask. As the saying goes, "if it's to good to be true it probably isn't!". I wish Ebay could get rid of these jerks but since posts are handled by computer it's hard for them to police the millions of posts that they receive. I have bought several things through Ebay and have been very satisfied with the transactions. In a barrel this big you are always going to have a few bad apples!

MadReferee · Mar 29, 2005

( I wish Ebay could get rid of these jerks but since posts are handled by computer it's hard for them to police the millions of posts that they receive. )

You're right. Doing the math, according to their earnings press release they average over 4 MILLION posts PER DAY (1.4 billion per year). It would be cost prohibitive for them to staff up so that every post could be reviewed for possible scams. If even 1/10 of 1% of the daily posts were scams that would be 4000 which is probably a high number. Since using the Ebay service is a "buyer beware" proposition, it's doubtfull that anything will ever be done.

JimMorrissey · Mar 29, 2005

I've used Ebay many times to buy and sell. Never had a problem, not once. You hear about stuff like this, but they are one in 100,000....200,000 transactions. It's just like anything else (evening news) you tend to get fed all the bad stuff. What about the millions of successful transactions each year....Do you homework, ask questions and you'll be fine.

kubotabilly · Mar 29, 2005

Jim,
I agree with you 100%. I have sold over 2500 items and purchased over 1000 items and only had to go to paypal twice for refunds. I had both those refunds within days, you just have to follow their (paypal's) guidelines. It's been a great source of extra income to help pay for my tractor addiction /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Bill