Another Pole Barn

[Mark_in_IN]

Over the last few months i have been getting quotes for building a pole barn. I first looked at building it myself, I could get the materials for about 2/3 the cost of one put up, while I dont question my ability to put it up what i do worry about is how long it would take to put it up.
I then got a few quotes for companys to come in and put it up.

Here is what i'm considering putting up.
24x32x10 with a 8 foot lean to on the 32' side.
Vapor barrior on the roof
12x10 split slider on the front
1 man door
trusses on 4' center
Ridge Venting
1' overhangs
weinscoating

for $11,800
add in 4" concrete, 4" fill, 5000lb mix with rebar and cut joints for $3200
for a grand total of $15,000

I am also thinking of going with a garage door instead of a slider.

I think i need to excavate and put down 6" of crusher run as a base and to level the site, Is this adequate? more less none?

What do you guys think? any suggestions?

mark

 

[wedge40]

Mark, I just have questions. Where in Indiana and who? I'm looking at 32x40 with radiant heat in the floor. And maybe even a gamrel roof for storage or living quarters above.
I live out by Bloomington.

Somebody just bought 32 acres by me and I worried it would be developed, but they have started a moster pole barn so I doubt it will be sub-division going in there.


Wedge

 

[Mark_in_IN]

The company is amish builders
Amish Builders - Home Page
My neighbor had them put up a barn before i bought my house and it quality is some of the best i have seen.

Mark

 

[wedge40]

I understand there a few Amish builders in Southern Indiana, and usually there is a LONG wait list. I've heard of people waiting almost 2 years to get them to build their house. But like you said, the quality is the best money can buy.
Actually I was going to check two Amish places in Cannelburg. They will sell kits or put the barn up for you. One is DC Metal Sales.

Wedge

 

[Mark_in_IN]

I got updated pricing and they went up a little but not to bad.

i have a few questions
1. Roll up door or slider?
I would like to finish it off on the inside someday and the roll up door is more weather proof in my opionion. but a slider i can get full height, currently dont need it but who knows what i'll have in the future.
2. Ground prep? I'm going to see what they suggest, the price for the concrete includes 4" of gravel under the concrete but is this enough?

I'm meeting with them on wed so he can look at the site and we can finalize the details.

thanks
mark

 

[Farwell]

Mark,
I have a roll up door on my pole barn and the roll is above the door width so it doesn't take any space out of the door way. The roll up door isn't as easy to insulate as a sliding door. The insulation on my roll up is 1/4 inch double foil covered bubble type insulation. It does a fair job but still not as good as 1 1/2 inch foam board on a slider. My door is a 10'X10', I have had it for around 4 years, it cost in the neighborhood of $600 and I have been satisfied with it.

 

[Sniggle]

Price seems pretty good.

I am having built as I write a 24*36*9 pole barn. The barn will include one 12*24 bay to be used as a run in lined with oak boards and left open. Tow( 2) other bays (one for tractor, one for hay storage) will have hinged doors. The roof is metal (2 ft on center trusses, 4-12 roof pitch), and the siding is the textured barn siding (T-1-11). The contractor is prepping the base (crushed decomposed shale).

The cost of the barn is going to be $9000. I had to pay $850 for the base material. Gutters will be another $400.

Good luck.

(eastern panhandle, WV)

 

[EddieWalker]

...add in 4" concrete, 4" fill, 5000lb mix with rebar and cut joints for $3200
for a grand total of $15,000

I am also thinking of going with a garage door instead of a slider.

I think i need to excavate and put down 6" of crusher run as a base and to level the site, Is this adequate? more less none?

What do you guys think? any suggestions?

mark

Mark,

If you can afford it, go with the concrete. It is probably the best money you will spend. If you don't do it now, it's very unlikely that you ever will, and that will be a shame. Having a hard, flat surface is a huge factor in how you use your barn, and how productive you will be. I made the mistake of going gravel in my last shop, and never again!!!

The depth of your base really depends on your location. I think 6 inches is allot, but others in your area would know better then I will. Here, we don't even use base rock, we just pour the concrete right on the dirt.

Sliders are the least expensive doors after giant swing doors. They tend to give you problems with wear and age, plus they are very dificult to keep the wind and bugs out. Garage doors are very nice, easy to insulate and install. The drawback to them is they take up ceiling space. If you don't have lighting there and have the roof space, they are a great choice. I went with the roll up door and love it. It's weather and pretty close to bug proof. I don't know how you could insulate it, but I have my doubts at to how big a deal it is anyway. If you insulate all your walls and ceiling, the door will be a problem, but it would be very, very expensive to get a door that seals up to the same R value as a 2x4 wall with insulation in it.

My walls are 12 feet tall and that's worked out really well. I think I'd miss that two feet if they were only ten feet. How tall with the opening be on your leanto with your roof pitch if you start out at ten feet? With a 12 ft wall, my leanto is 8ft tall and twelve feet wide.

Eddie

 

[Mark_in_IN]

Yeah i agree on the concrete, I'm definatly doing the concrete, I'm going to have him give me a price on moving up to 12' walls and then a 10' door. I'll update later this week.
thanks
mark

 

[bones1]

Yeah i agree on the concrete, I'm definatly doing the concrete, I'm going to have him give me a price on moving up to 12' walls and then a 10' door. I'll update later this week.
thanks
mark

That would be the way to go.

 

[wedge40]

Yeah i agree on the concrete, I'm definatly doing the concrete, I'm going to have him give me a price on moving up to 12' walls and then a 10' door. I'll update later this week.
thanks
mark

I just hate spending other peoples money. But are you going to heat the shop/garage? If so I'd look at putting pex in the concrete and go with radiant floor heating. Nothing better than laying down on a nice warm floor when it 20 degrees outside. Just my two cents.

I just got quote from an online place for a 32x40x12 with one 8' wing. Gambrel roof with fulll upper deck rated at 50psf. Came in around 22K. Mind you that doesn't include cement and some of the other "finish" stuff, like plumbing and electrical.

Wedge

 

[Mark_in_IN]

well i bit the bullet and now am scheduled the first week in september for the barn to be build.

24*32*12
4/12 truss 4'oc 2x4 purlins 2'oc insulated roof.
29 gauge steel, ridge vent
1' overhang vented soffit
weinscoating 3' up
4x6 posts 8'oc, 2x4 girts 2' oc
2x6 splash board
4" concrete 4"fill
10x10 garage door steel insulated
entry door 3/0 steel 1/2 glass
lean to on 32' side 4x4 posts


for a total of $16,650

as for site prep, he reccomended that i scrape off the grass and level the site out and not put down any type of gravel, he said they will just put down there gravel and pour the concrete. Now i start the permit process, then starts the tractor work.

Mark

 

[skargo]

I love my pole barn. Mine is 30'x30' with an 8' leanto. I'm getting ready to extend the leanto another 10' and enclose it.

Here are some build pics.
garage
garagefloor
asphalt

From this,

to this,

more,

And finally,

They are never big enough, in a year or two I'll go out another 20' in the back.

 

[Mark_in_IN]

that looks close to the color i picked out

Mark

 

[skargo]

that looks close to the color i picked out

Mark

I tried to match the house the best I could Mark. My wife still wants me to put shutters on the window

 

[Mark_in_IN]

Well the progress contimues,
After getting the permit last week, yesterday i borrowed a tractor and got to work.
the sight had a slope to the rear and i had to remove a couple small tree stumps.
After a few hours of work i realized i was not that skilled at loader use, but became better as the day went on, and a boxblade might have worked better than the blade.

to see all the pics majhost.com Gallery

mark

 

[Mark_in_IN]

I got the call yesterday that there starting tuesday morning, Got the day off work and am excited!!!!

I'll post losts of pictures on friday (my next day at work).

Mark

 

[EddieWalker]

Awesome!!!

Looking forward to seeing it.

Eddie

 

[Mark_in_IN]

The barn is up waiting on the overhead door.
It was unbelievable how fast a good crew can put one up, if i wouldn't have had the concrete floor they could have been done in two days.

to see all the pictures majhost.com Gallery

now the projects continue,
trench and run electric and water to the barn
wire the barn
pour a concrete apron on the front
put gravel down on the floor of the lean and move all the fire wood and restack it.
regrade and reseed.

Mark

 

[pwl]

Sweet!