Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?

   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?
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Jimmy, thanks for taking the time to respond and give some input. I haven't even messed with my tractor in a few days because I've been so busy with work, my wife did use it to put out hay and it worked okay which is the problem sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't you just have no faith in it. My dealer never did bother to even call me back nor did Massey. Doesn't leave me with much faith in either so I'm sure a couple of those fixes you mentioned I won't be capable of having done unless I pay. Like I stated all along the whole purpose of me buying a brand new tractor was so I didn't have to go through these headaches while trying to farm and have a full-time job. Thanks everyone for your help and your input and if you just take this as me trying to bash a brand well so be it I'm just relaying my experience with the company and tractor. Would I ever recommend Massey again, No.
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?
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And if my last post sounds crazy or doesn't make sense it's because I'm using talk to text to make this post and I did not proofread
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors? #84  
And if my last post sounds crazy or doesn't make sense it's because I'm using talk to text to make this post and I did not proofread
Makes sense to me. Too bad your dealer was unable to get you straight. I would feel some type of way too.
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?
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Just thought I would give one last update and then I probably won't revive this post anymore unless something major happens. Contacted Massey again (3rd time), never heard back from their rep. Called dealer and left a message, never got a call back. So I would just caution anyone looking into a Massey to make sure they have a dealer they know will help because in my experience Massey pretty much just ignored me. I know some may read this and think "I bet this guy acted like a jerk, or made crazy demands etc" so these people probably weren't able to deal with him. Hopefully judging by my posts you can tell that I wasn't demanding, I was never rude nor did I make any kind of demands. I just wanted a tractor that worked all year round. You know it's really a shame because I went to the farm machinery show and actually sat in a 4710 and from the looks of it and the feel that's a really nice tractor. I just don't think I'll ever be able to buy anything else Massey.
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors? #86  
Just thought I would give one last update and then I probably won't revive this post anymore unless something major happens. Contacted Massey again (3rd time), never heard back from their rep. Called dealer and left a message, never got a call back. So I would just caution anyone looking into a Massey to make sure they have a dealer they know will help because in my experience Massey pretty much just ignored me. I know some may read this and think "I bet this guy acted like a jerk, or made crazy demands etc" so these people probably weren't able to deal with him. Hopefully judging by my posts you can tell that I wasn't demanding, I was never rude nor did I make any kind of demands. I just wanted a tractor that worked all year round. You know it's really a shame because I went to the farm machinery show and actually sat in a 4710 and from the looks of it and the feel that's a really nice tractor. I just don't think I'll ever be able to buy anything else Massey.

Hey Capt Howdy: I've read all these posts and you have no need to feel guilty or biased or in any way out of place. In no way has this reader felt you were bad-mouthing a manufacturer, using the podium to trash a company, playing a recording time after time of your mistreatment. Unlike 1 or 2 others I won't name, You are NOT guilty so forget that. My impression, for what it is worth, is you have been an unfortunate victim -- having tried to buy a brand new tractor (exactly as I did) and expecting it to be relatively, if not totally, trouble-free in return for the fortune you paid for it. At one point I predicted that MF would be out of business in 5 years if mine was typical. The difference is that eventually MF/AGCO made mine right (took 3 yrs) and I am now quite happy with the tractor. They obviously failed to do that for you and shame on them. I can't blame you at all for the opinion you have formed, based on your specific experience.
One warning comment: I do not think that the farm tractor industry is anything like the new car industry. Most, if not all, tractor brands have some legit horror stories to tell among their customers. Green and orange do for sure. The dealer networks are way too thin and often poorly supported by the manufacturer. There are not quite enough of us to have the "mass market benefits" of car buyers. So do not necessarily expect better treatment from other sources than you got from MF. Good luck from here on out !
 
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   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?
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Hey Capt Howdy: I've read all these posts and you have no need to feel guilty or biased or in any way out of place. In no way has this reader felt you were bad-mouthing a manufacturer, using the podium to trash a company, playing a recording time after time of your mistreatment. Unlike 1 or 2 others I won't name, You are NOT guilty so forget that. My impression, for what it is worth, is you have been an unfortunate victim -- having tried to buy a brand new tractor (exactly as I did) and expecting it to be relatively, if not totally, trouble-free in return for the fortune you paid for it. At one point I predicted that MF would be out of business in 5 years if mine was typical. The difference is that eventually MF/AGCO made mine right (took 3 yrs) and I am now quite happy with the tractor. They obviously failed to do that for you and shame on them. I can't blame you at all for the opinion you have formed, based on your specific experience.
One warning comment: I do not think that the farm tractor industry is anything like the new car industry. Most, if not all, tractor brands have some legit horror stories to tell among their customers. Green and orange do for sure. The dealer networks are way too thin and often poorly supported by the manufacturer. There are not quite enough of us to have the "mass market benefits" of car buyers. So do not necessarily expect better treatment from other sources than you got from MF. Good luck from here on out !
Jwr, well said and thanks. You are absolutely correct about the treatment but I will be sure not to spend my money where I know going in they don't care. I would have even felt better about the situation if they would have had the decency to tell me they weren't going to do a **** thing. But to just ignore me and blow me off, bad business.
 
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   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors? #88  
I'll give you $500 for the 4610. :)

Hey I will raise you $500 plus you are too far away from KY. :)

This is a serious case actually and the pain is coming through in some of the posts.

The shop that is working on the 1966 Ford 3000 told me yesterday the low price deals/leases on new stuff hurt his repair business for a number of years but he is seeing more heavy repairs made to old iron today and some are doing like I did by going out and buying old iron then rebuilding them back to new like condition to avoid the lighter built tractors of today. Some that are doing a deep rebuild will have a lot of money in they.

Another used dealer said the mega dealers selling and financing a trailer loaded with a new tractor and equipment is hurting him by pumping out so much light weight new stuff. While the drive train on this new to us 1966 Ford 3000 and on the late father-in-law's 1976 265 MF seem very solid and tight there is stuff that does wear/age out but if fixed they still seem to do what they would do 40-50 years ago.

I wonder if today's techs are just struggling more because the new tractors are so technical compared to the old iron. I am doing more to the 3000 than required today just because I have a good shop owner that is good with this old iron. When his generation is gone I am not sure what service will be available and if it is how affordable it will be.
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors?
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Hey I will raise you $500 plus you are too far away from KY. :)

This is a serious case actually and the pain is coming through in some of the posts.

The shop that is working on the 1966 Ford 3000 told me yesterday the low price deals/leases on new stuff hurt his repair business for a number of years but he is seeing more heavy repairs made to old iron today and some are doing like I did by going out and buying old iron then rebuilding them back to new like condition to avoid the lighter built tractors of today. Some that are doing a deep rebuild will have a lot of money in they.

Another used dealer said the mega dealers selling and financing a trailer loaded with a new tractor and equipment is hurting him by pumping out so much light weight new stuff. While the drive train on this new to us 1966 Ford 3000 and on the late father-in-law's 1976 265 MF seem very solid and tight there is stuff that does wear/age out but if fixed they still seem to do what they would do 40-50 years ago.

I wonder if today's techs are just struggling more because the new tractors are so technical compared to the old iron. I am doing more to the 3000 than required today just because I have a good shop owner that is good with this old iron. When his generation is gone I am not sure what service will be available and if it is how affordable it will be.
Nothing is made to last anymore, don't even get me started on appliances lol. I would prefer them without all these electrical nannies
 
   / Any 4610 owners have problems with their tractors? #90  
I got a 2015 Massey Ferguson 4608 bought used with 480hrs march 17. It now has 780 hrs on it. My only complaint is the shuttle can be a little rough sometimes and the damper on the flywheel makes a rattle sometimes that echoes threw the transmission. I started mine today in the single digits with no block heater. I honestly really like the machine. My brother has a 2009 5065e John Deere. I'm not a big fan of it. When it's cold like it has been in West Virginia here lately,the hydraulic pump sounds really bad until it warms up which of course has to do with the cold spell we are in and in the summer the transmission tunnel gets really hot doing hard hay work It won't start unless It plugged in under 30 degrees. Don't get me wrong it's got 3000 hrs on it and has been reliable but they have there own set of issues also.ive had no issues outta my Massey but only time will tell
I think i am having the same rattle you are talking about. My tractor makes a rattle sound which I was contributing to the transmission. I have an intermittent rattle when in gear until i push on the clutch or put the lever into neutral. Sometimes it worse than others and sometimes it goes away completely. It is usually worse in low than high. Is this similar to the rattle you are talking about. Id really like to get mine fixed if its something that going to do more damage, talking to the dealer over the phone he thought it might be the transmission flex plate.
 

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