Any news on gas engine CUTS?

[Loadstar]

2.3l dual fuel in a genie 45/25.

 

[TomSeller]

2.3l dual fuel in a genie 45/25.

Those were good engines.

 

[Loadstar]

Those were good engines.

Correction "are"

 

[GManBart]

How do highway vehicles, boats, ATV's, RTV's snowmobiles and motorcycles manage to operate with gas DI engines?

They aren't tractors with no suspension, they aren't run for hours and hours and hours on end at high power settings, and they don't have a useful life of many decades without significant maintenance requirements. To sum it up for you, they don't have to be built to the same level of ruggedness as a tractor requires.

Or those Tier IV diesels with sensors and solenoid valves wired in all in, over and around the engine.One would think that they would shake apart or short out.
The main structural change would be a cylinder head with spark plugs and injectors. Some manufactures have figured that one out.

Wow, I can't believe you took a swing at the softball I tossed up there. If you build a gasser to be as rugged, and durable as a diesel tractor engine, or if you take a diesel engine, and modify it for gasoline, you aren't going to be saving any money on the engine...in fact, the cost will go up until they pay off the costs to make those modifications, new tooling, etc. So, you wind up with an equally expensive engine that gets worse fuel economy...significantly worse because you're going to be running it hard, which is where gassers lose even more compared to diesels.

You just seem to miss that diesels are relatively more efficient than gas engines when worked hard....like in a tractor, not a car/truck puttering down the highway using 10% of it's rated power.

To make matters even worse for the gasser, if people using diesel tractors want to, they can usually get off-road diesel (150gal minimum for delivery from my supplier) at a good discount over pump diesel...cutting the gas to diesel cost difference even more.

Manufactures could sell DI gas tractors to anybody that doesn't have a diesel pickup or wished that they had a diesel pickup.

Really? You should tell them, because they must not be nearly as smart about the industry and market as you are. It's amazing they haven't caught on, and that's what they do for a living.

 

[94BULLITT]

2.3l dual fuel in a genie 45/25.

How many hours will they run in a genie?

 

[TomSeller]

Correction "are"

Good point. Very long lived. They WERE and ARE good engines.

 

[mikehaugen]

At work we had Linde forklifts with vw 2.0 engines fueled by propane. They just got replaced, not for engine issues necessarily, just generally worn out. Here is one of the old ones waiting to be shipped out.



We run 5-6 days per week, 3 shifts. Look, this one is nearly new... I think the life of these engines is quite disappointing



I know it was mentioned before but maybe propane would make a good alternative.

 

[bigdeano]

I don't know how many people would buy a new gas tractor, but there are many thousands of gas tractors still doing what they were designed to do. Don't try to tell us gas tractors can't work hard and hold up. It doesn't matter what fuel you're burning, it matters how the engine is built. My 75 year old MMs belonged to my uncles when they were new. They had 1000+ acre wheat farms in Eastern Montana. Those tractor spent years running wide open for a mile, turning around and going back a mile. They still both run fine. They were replaced when larger tractors became available. Who wants to spend that many hours out in the hot sun and dust.

 

[Loadstar]

At work we had Linde forklifts with vw 2.0 engines fueled by propane. They just got replaced, not for engine issues necessarily, just generally worn out. Here is one of the old ones waiting to be shipped out.

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/buying-pricing-comparisons/411002-any-news-gas-engine-cuts-forumrunner_20150210_235122-png"/>

We run 5-6 days per week, 3 shifts. Look, this one is nearly new... I think the life of these engines is quite disappointing

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/buying-pricing-comparisons/411003-any-news-gas-engine-cuts-forumrunner_20150210_235151-png"/>

I know it was mentioned before but maybe propane would make a good alternative.

But wait how will they ever hold up? They are just puttering around at 10% of power with hardly any weight on them

 

[Loadstar]

How many hours will they run in a genie?

For a very long time.