Sylvainl
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I mesure the ice about 9 inches thick, my JD 4720 with the tracks weight 3 tons + do you think it's safe ??
Any one remove snow on a lake with their tractor.
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mcd176
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I sure wouldnt wanna try it!
Markcuda
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My wife would say there is no thikness of ice that is safe:laughing:
Is it safe, ask your insurance guy:laughing::laughing:
Is it safe, ask your insurance guy:laughing::laughing:
flyingcow
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I'm too nervous, i need feet of ice before i venture out. But i have run a trail groomer out on the ponds(14,000lbs)Suretracs systems, but it was late Feb.
But seriously,9 inches would make me a little nervous. You mentioned tracks? Soucy? Mattracks? or similiar? Much better than 4 tires and the pressure points. You must know the lake well? springs, inlet/outlets?
But seriously,9 inches would make me a little nervous. You mentioned tracks? Soucy? Mattracks? or similiar? Much better than 4 tires and the pressure points. You must know the lake well? springs, inlet/outlets?
flyingcow
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Markcuda
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Wow, my under pants would be soiled for life if that was me.
Now, they still have to get all of their stuff out of the water, that will be fun
Honey, can you give me the number to our insurance man:shocked:
Now, they still have to get all of their stuff out of the water, that will be fun
Honey, can you give me the number to our insurance man:shocked:
flyingcow
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Wow, my under pants would be soiled for life if that was me.
Now, they still have to get all of their stuff out of the water, that will be fun
Honey, can you give me the number to our insurance man:shocked:
Also, only have so many days to remove from lake, or will be fined. Got divers for hire that do this. Dive in and attach air bags. But, it's tricky when the surrounding ice is thin. I would think it would be a bit chilly to do. But it's been done many times. When they loose pickups, it can get real pricey.
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Sylvainl
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flyingcow said:
Soucy Tracs, i'm talking about a small lake, or huge pond. But deep enough to trash my tractor if i fall throug !
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9 inches of ice will hold your tractor. What you don't know about ice on ponds is if there are currents that have melted some of the ice in places that make it thin, or if there is snow cover that will insulate the ice from the cold air. Also will make for thinner ice.
I can't see that getting on the ice with your tractor is worth the risk.
Why are you removing snow from the ice? To do a favor for someone or a group, or for hire?
I can't see that getting on the ice with your tractor is worth the risk.
Why are you removing snow from the ice? To do a favor for someone or a group, or for hire?
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Really, it isn't possible.
Markcuda
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You wana bet:laughing::laughing:
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From Mn DNR:For New, Clear Ice Only
2" or less - STAY OFF
4" - Ice fishing or other activities on foot
5" - Snowmobile or ATV
8" - 12" - Car or small pickup
12" - 15" - Medium truck
2" or less - STAY OFF
4" - Ice fishing or other activities on foot
5" - Snowmobile or ATV
8" - 12" - Car or small pickup
12" - 15" - Medium truck
KennedyDiesel
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Depends what you are doing exactly and for how long.
I'd like to see 12" or more, but with heavy snow cover ice can build slowly.
Cab door(s) TIED OPEN and no seat belt are an absolute musts. You should have a nice wide footprint and should be fine, but plan for the worst and have a good escape plan.
I'd like to see 12" or more, but with heavy snow cover ice can build slowly.
Cab door(s) TIED OPEN and no seat belt are an absolute musts. You should have a nice wide footprint and should be fine, but plan for the worst and have a good escape plan.
jlsmith
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Just wondering but why would you want to remove snow off of your lake or pond.
DANOCHEESE
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Well thee are thirty one schacks on the alke today. add 31 vehicles next to them. Fish are biting 28 inch walleye last night. THere are 5 power strokes parked within 300 feet of each other. 8800 Lbs each .
Do you know this lake pond. Spring fed? Walk the pond and drill a few test holes. carry pics. I mean come on does'nt anyone watch ICE road truckers.
Do you know this lake pond. Spring fed? Walk the pond and drill a few test holes. carry pics. I mean come on does'nt anyone watch ICE road truckers.
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DrainPondDesign
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Sylvainl,
If you try it and go through the ice consider that the water presure will keep you from opening your cab door until it equalizes inside and out.
If the depth is deeper than the tractor cab you will probably drown.
I would consider not wearing a seat belt, making sure nothing I'm wearing will snag inside the cab and even carry a hammer to break the door or take the doors off beforehand.
If you just need to clear a skating area how about borrowing a walk behind snow blower?
Tie a float with enough rope onto it so you can fish it out later if it goes through.
Below is some info from the NYS DEC for ice fishing but remember that ice can be much thinner in spots like over a feeder spring or over a current.
Ice Thickness Table Ice Thickness Permissible Load
2 inches one person on foot
3 inches group in single file
7.5 inches one car (2 tons)
8 inches light truck (2.5 tons)
10 inches truck (3.5 tons)
12 inches heavy truck (7-8 tons)
15 inches 10 tons
20 inches 25 tons
If you try it and go through the ice consider that the water presure will keep you from opening your cab door until it equalizes inside and out.
If the depth is deeper than the tractor cab you will probably drown.
I would consider not wearing a seat belt, making sure nothing I'm wearing will snag inside the cab and even carry a hammer to break the door or take the doors off beforehand.
If you just need to clear a skating area how about borrowing a walk behind snow blower?
Tie a float with enough rope onto it so you can fish it out later if it goes through.
Below is some info from the NYS DEC for ice fishing but remember that ice can be much thinner in spots like over a feeder spring or over a current.
Ice Thickness Table Ice Thickness Permissible Load
2 inches one person on foot
3 inches group in single file
7.5 inches one car (2 tons)
8 inches light truck (2.5 tons)
10 inches truck (3.5 tons)
12 inches heavy truck (7-8 tons)
15 inches 10 tons
20 inches 25 tons
Markcuda
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This is my rule of thumb for driving a truck on the ice, if I see other tracks on the ice, then I will do it, if I have to be the trail blazer, forgetaboutit:laughing:
JD3520Cab
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I don't know how thick the ice has to be but I did see some pics this week of a skid loader a kid was using to clear the ice to play hockey on a pond. All I could see was the top of the cab out of the water and the bucket holding it from going all the way to the bottom. I don't think the lad's employer was impressed!!!!
That is odd. I was alway told you could do thinner ice on sled than by foot.
Which I know is true seeing how I can sled on water but can't walk on it.:laughing:
Just wondering but why would you want to remove snow off of your lake or pond.
Sled ice drag racing on the river. :thumbsup:
